Ex-Head of Ethics of the British Medical Association Attempts Illegal Cremation of Vulnerable Mentally Ill Patient

Justice For Carol – The True Story of Carol Felstead
The Creation of a Satanic Myth in the United Kingdom

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This article has been written by members of the Felstead Family.

OUR FAMILY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM REPUTABLE LAWYERS WHO MAY BE INTERESTED IN TAKING LEGAL ACTION ON OUR BEHALF.

Our beloved daughter and sister Carole Myers (formerly known as Carol Felstead) happy and healthy aged 20, as a student nurse, shortly after Carol achieved her childhood dream to become a fully qualified nurse. This picture was taken before meeting Dr Fleur Fisher and before Carol became a victim of Recovered Memory Therapy.

Introduction

This website has been specifically created to draw public attention to the behaviour of Dr Fleur Fisher, the Ex-Head of Ethics of the British Medical Association, following the death of our beloved daughter and sister, Carole Patricia Myers (formerly known as Carol Patricia Felstead).

Our family made an official complaint to the Metropolitan Police on the 13th August 2008. Dr Fleur Fisher was interviewed under police caution at Wandsworth Police Station on the 16th April 2009. The criminal offences that she was being questioned over were the attempted illegal cremation of Carol, perverting the course of justice, the theft of all of Carol’s possessions from Carol’s flat and the theft of Carol’s car.

The Metropolitan Police conducted a fifteen month investigation into our complaint and stated that there is not enough evidence to prosecute Dr Fisher. The Independent Police Complaints Commission upheld the decision of the police. The General Medical Council also states that there is not enough evidence to take any action against Dr Fisher. The Metropolitan Police, the Crown Prosecution Service, the Independent Police Complaints Commission and the General Medical Council have all seen and heard all of the following evidence that we are now presenting to the public. In total it has taken five and a half years for each of the above organisations to conduct their individual investigations and effectively conclude that Dr Fisher’s behaviour is acceptable. We believe that their decisions are appalling.

This is a story about abuse of professional power. Before we tell our story, we would like to make it clear that we now understand and accept that Carol was severely mentally ill and that she was not in any way responsible for her actions. We will always remember Carol as a fun loving, caring, sociable and kind-hearted person. Wherever you are now Carol, you are in all of our hearts and we will always remember you with affection.

Our Story

Our beloved daughter and sister, Carol, a vulnerable and mentally ill adult, was found dead in her flat at 17a Swanage Road, Wandsworth, London, SW18 2DZ on the 29th June 2005 at about 3:30pm. The cause of death was indeterminable. Our family have been fighting for five years to get to the bottom of the extraordinary events surrounding her death. The facts are as follows: Carol died on 29 June 2005; our family were not notified of her death by the Coroner’s Office until the 14 July 2005. In the meantime, an eminent doctor, Dr Linda Fleur Fisher, had arranged Carol’s cremation and disposed of her personal possessions.

Dr Fisher told the Metropolitan Police, Battersea Coroner’s Office and Servite Housing Association that she was Carol’s next of kin and executor. She was accepted on her word and was not asked to provide any evidence to support these preposterous claims. In an interview with journalist Will Storr (The Observer Magazine, 11 December 2011), Fisher admitted ”that she had no legal claim to be Carol’s next of kin.” The article can be found here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/dec/11/carole-myers-satanic-child-abuse

Because our family were not informed about Carol’s death until two weeks after she had died, we did not see her before she was buried (her body was placed in a sealed coffin) and we were not present or represented at her post-mortem. Nor were we allowed to attend the pre-inquest into her death because we were not even aware that she had died at the time it took place. No member of our family has ever identified Carol.

No member of our family – except Carol – has ever met Dr Fisher. In fact, prior to 2005, we had never even heard of her.  Following Carol’s death, we have checked with the Court of Protection, the Probate Registry, the High Court and many other official bodies to find out if Carol ever appointed Dr Fisher to act as her representative in any legal capacity. No such appointment was ever made prior to 2005; no appointment was ever made.

Our family have in our possession Carol’s medical records which illustrate that Dr Fisher knew about the existence of our family, and had done so for some considerable time.

Every single thing to do with Carol’s death is disturbing. Consider, for example, the manner in which our family were informed of her death. Carol’s brother received a telephone call on 14 July 2005 from Sharon Marshall, an officer in Battersea Coroner’s Court, who told him that Carol had died and was being cremated the following day. The officer said she knew why Carol had died but she did not provide any details about her death. Marshall stated further that Carol’s ‘next of  kin’ had told her that Carol did not have a family.

Two minutes later, Carol’s brother received another phone call. This call was even worse. The female caller refused to reveal her identity or position. The person who rang declared that she was Carol’s next of kin. She then invited Carol’s brother to a cremation service, which, she said, had been arranged for Carol the following day. We recorded the telephone number of the caller at the time via the NTL 1471 Facility. We have legally applied for and received Carol’s telephone records. We now know that this anonymous caller was Dr Fisher.

The cremation was prevented by our family less than 24 hours before it was due to take place and Carol was brought back home to Stockport and given a family service and burial.

Our family have been told that the Coroner’s Assistant and Dr Fisher only became aware of Carol’s family after discovering a letter written to Carol by her brother.

The letter was written, ironically, on 29 June, the day that Carol died. On receipt of the letter, the Coroner’s Assistant and Dr Fisher are supposed to have realised for the first time that Carol had a family to contact. We do not believe this scenario. On the 7th July 2005 Dr Fisher insured Carol’s car in her own name. The recording of this transaction is provided below. Dr Fleur Fisher can be heard in her own words confirming that she is completely aware that Carol has a family.

Dr Fisher did not provide any documentary evidence to the Metropolitan Police or the Coroner’s Office to demonstrate that she was legally entitled to represent Carol in any capacity whatsoever, because she did not have any. She was allowed to literally walk in off the street and illegally arrange Carol’s cremation and take Carol’s possessions. Our family think that this is an outrage.

On 28 July 2005, Carol’s brother received by post a small parcel. He opened the parcel which contained an unmarked box. The box was 14 inches long, 9 inches wide and 3 inches deep. It looked like a shoebox.  The box contained no details of the sender. There was no letter or note inside the box identifying who had sent it. The box contained what was left of Carol’s possessions – these consisted of various documents including bank statements, and almost all of the documents were about three years old or older; there was also an old passport. The passport contained Carol’s father’s name and address. These details are accurate to this day. Our family believe that Dr Fisher committed this callous act of cruelty. The only personal items of Carol’s that we received were Carol’s watch, a ring and a pendant, which came in an evidence bag from the Metropolitan Police.

An inquest into Carol’s death took place on 12 August 2005 (the inquest returned an Open Verdict). Dr Fisher was not even named in the inquest. In fact, our family were quite unaware of her existence at this time.

Not only did Dr Fisher arrange Carol’s cremation; she also helped identify Carol. We have a letter from the coronial office which states that the Coroner’s Assistant took a photograph of Carol in a mortuary and compared this with a photograph provided by Dr Fisher. Our family were to find out after the inquest that, on the day that Carol died, Dr Fisher made an emergency 999 phone call to the Police in relation to Carol’s death, while she was in Manchester, some 200 miles away.

The Metropolitan Police, despite repeated requests over the last five and a half years, have refused to allow our family to hear this 999 telephone call.  This call has been confirmed by the Metropolitan Police as still in existence and is stored on Metropolitan Police systems. We are hoping that public support and pressure will force the Metropolitan Police to allow our bereaved family to hear this emergency 999 call which was made by Dr Fisher at 15:14 on the 29thJune 2005.  We want to know all of the circumstances of Carol’s death.

Update: (On 27 November 2011),  After six years of repeated refusals the Metropolitan Police have finally provided a Computer Aided Dispatch (CAD) of the emergency 999 phone call Dr Fisher made, at 3.14 pm, on the 29th June 2005 to the Metropolitan Police, directly in relation to Carol’s death. This CAD of the phone call was secured by Andrew Stunnell MP via the Directorate of Legal Services in New Scotland Yard. The following extracts are recorded by the Metropolitan Police Operator in the CAD:

  • Dr Fisher stated that she ”is a friend of Carole Myers. She has serious concerns that female may have taken an overdose of drugs.” This suspected overdose was not mentioned at Carol’s inquest – which took place on 12 August 2005.
  • Dr Fisher further stated in this call that ”Female will be in bedroom which is in the rear of the property.”
  • At 5. 17 pm Dr Fisher made a further call to the Operator from the Metropolitan Police. The Computer Aided Dispatch records the following information: ”She has asked me if the person is deceased. I have not told her anything. She asks that she can speak directly to Inspector Rogers and she states that his mobile number was given to her. She believes that she knows what this is all about and that the dead person was in a depressive state and she may have taken her own life… She said she would be sitting down if I wanted to give her bad news…”
  •  The CAD additionally records that, when asked to disclose her home address, Dr Fisher did not ”furnish this information.”

The emergency 999 phone call was not mentioned at Carol’s inquest. Our family only became aware of Dr Fisher after a police officer inadvertently mentioned her name in a telephone conversation after the inquest had taken place. We did a quick internet search on Dr Fisher and were astonished to find out that she specialises in health care ethics and was formerly Head of Ethics at the British Medical Association.

Our family have not been provided with an estimated time of death for Carol. We have repeatedly asked, in writing, for an estimated time of death, The  purpose of the callout to the Metropolitan Police, as stated in the inquest, was to attend Carol’s flat to undertake a welfare check.

At the inquest and recorded in the inquest transcript (we have a copy) the Coroner stated that the callout was because “a friend had called her friend’s doctor as she was concerned for her friend ‘Caroline Myers’”. (This should have said Carole Myers, not Caroline Myers) The Coroner did not name either the friend or the doctor.

The police officer who received the emergency 999 call also gave evidence at the inquest and his evidence is also recorded in the inquest transcript. He stated that he was on duty on the 29th June 2005 and received a call to attend 17a Swanage Road, Wandsworth. When giving his evidence he did not state who made the call, nor was he asked by the Coroner to identify who had made the call..

In 2010, we applied under the Freedom of Information Act and received the actual ambulance call-out sheets for Carol’s death. The ambulance call-out sheets are unambiguous and state that the reason for the call-out was “F suspected drug overdose”. No reason has ever been given to our family, by either the Metropolitan Police or the Coroner’s Office, to explain how Dr Fisher could have possibly known from 200 miles away that Carol had taken a suspected drug overdose.

Carol’s father wrote a detailed letter to the Coroner’s Office, following the inquest. In this letter, our family expressed concern about the identification of Carol and sought clarification about a number of points regarding the circumstances of Carol’s death. In total, we submitted 299 questions to the Coroner. In contrast to what is stated in the letter from the Coroner below, our family did not, at any point, ask to remain anonymous during the inquest. For reasons that will become clear at a later point in this narrative, the truth of the matter is that Carol’s father warned officers from the Coroner’s Court that he would prosecute any witness who gave testimony which slandered our family.

Carol’s father received a letter written by Dr Shirley Radcliffe, Deputy Coroner. The letter is signed and dated. In this letter, Dr Fisher is not named explicitly but is  referred to as ‘the next of kin.’ Dr Radcliffe confirms in the letter that ‘the next of kin’ told her that there was no family to contact. The ‘next of kin’ was Dr Fisher.

Dr Fisher was not named or mentioned at all in the inquest. We could not ask any questions about Dr Fisher at the inquest, because at the time we were totally unaware of her identity and the extent of her involvement following Carol’s death. The deliberate omission of Dr Fisher’s name can be seen by looking at the inquest transcript, of which we have a copy.

Coroner’s Letter

Page 1, Click here Page 2, Click here Page 3, Click here

It is the considered view of Carol’s family that the inquest was inadequate because Dr Fisher did not appear and was not named at the inquest. Given her role in events following Carol’s death, we find the deliberate omission of Dr Fisher in these proceedings to be frankly astonishing.

The Telephone Call made by Dr Fisher to Diamond Insurance Company on the 7th July 2005 at 12:45pm.

Dr Fisher continued to have a sinister involvement in Carol’s affairs, even after Carol had died.

Here is a recording of a telephone call made by Dr Fisher to Diamond Car Insurance on the 7th July 2005. Dr Fisher can be heard taking out insurance on Carol’s car, so that she can drive the car to her home in Plymouth.

This recording has been edited to remove Dr Fisher’s personal contact details. The full recording is more than 17 minutes long. We do have a copy of the unedited recording.  This recording was obtained lawfully under the Freedom of Information Act from Diamond Insurance Company.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE, WHEN LISTENING TO THIS RECORDING, THAT CAROL HAS BEEN DEAD FOR EIGHT DAYS. IT IS A FURTHER SEVEN DAYS BEFORE OUR FAMILY WERE INFORMED OF CAROL’S DEATH. DR FISHER IS MAKING THIS TELEPHONE CALL IN THE CERTAIN KNOWLEDGE THAT OUR FAMILY HAVE NOT BEEN INFORMED THAT CAROL IS DEAD.

CAROL DIED ON THE 29TH JUNE 2005. OUR FAMILY WERE NOT NOTIFIED OF CAROL’S DEATH UNTIL THE 14TH JULY 2005.

Click here to listen to this recording

Main Points of the Call

(1) Dr Fisher states that she is next of kin of Carol in all documents.

This is demonstrably false. Joseph Felstead (Carol’s father) is and always has been Carol’s next of kin. In an interview with journalist Will Storr (The Observer Magazine, 11 December 2011), Fisher herself admitted ”that she had no legal claim to be Carol’s next of kin.” Click here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/dec/11/carole-myers-satanic-child-abuse

We have copies of Carol’s medical records, which were legally obtained under the Freedom of Information Act from the Primary Care Trust responsible for the records. Dr Fisher is not named as Carol’s next of kin in any of Carol’s medical records. As Carol was a vulnerable mental patient who had been on the severe mental illness register since June 29 1992, for Dr Fisher to have acted as the next of kin of Carol or as her personal representative, it would have been necessary for her to have been designated as such by the Court of Protection, which is the Court set up specifically to safeguard the legal rights of the mentally ill.

Dr Fisher did not have any legal entitlement to represent Carol at any time. See Heading: Next of Kin Status for a legal definition of the rights of next of kin.

(2) Dr Fisher states that she will be the executor of Carol’s estate.

By stating that she will be, and currently is not, the executor of Carol’s estate, Dr Fisher confirms that she is acting as Carol’s executor without any legal entitlement.

Dr Fisher was not the executor of Carol’s estate.  She was not named in a will, and she did not go through Probate. By the laws of intestacy which apply to every death in the UK, she had no legal right to act as Carol’s executor whatsoever.

(3) Dr Fisher states that ‘Carol was a survivor of brutal family abuse over many years’.

This appalling, ridiculous, slanderous and totally false allegation confirms that Dr Fisher was fully aware of the existence of our family and always had been. She is also completely aware that our family at the time of this telephone call do not even know that Carol is dead.

Dr Fisher is a medical ethicist and a campaigner for the privacy and confidentiality of medical records. Dr Fisher reveals Carol’s medical information which is false, sensitive and confidential to a complete stranger.

Dr Fisher has never met any member of our family with the exception of Carol. She did not meet Carol until Carol was 21 years old. Dr Fisher has no personal knowledge whatsoever of Carol’s childhood or of Carol’s family.

This ‘brutal family abuse’ was explicitly defined in a preposterous document that Dr Fisher passed to both the Metropolitan Police and to the Coroner’s Office before we were informed of Carol’s death. The document contained a number of claims that could be independently checked for truth by anyone. This document allegedly depicted Carol’s life from birth to late adulthood. This purported ‘Life Assessment’ document was typed, unsigned, undated, and was supposedly written by Carol whilst she had been in a mental hospital undergoing psychiatric treatment. Dr Fisher personally vouched for the truthfulness of its contents. The document does not contain specific names of individuals, it does not contain any actual dates or addresses – in fact, every single piece of information is generic. In an interview with Journalist Will Storr (The Observer Magazine 11th December 2011) Fisher was asked by Will Storr: ”Are you aware of any evidence that any of Carole’s claims actually happened?” Fisher replied “I never looked for any evidence.”

Upon being acquainted with these claims WE immediately instigated a number of police investigations which ALL confirmed that they were complete nonsense. See the section False Allegations.

In an interview with journalist Daniel Foggo (published in the Sunday Times on 12 June 2011), Fisher confirmed that Carol had ”no knowledge” of ritual abuse when she first saw her.  A link to the article can be found here: http://www.richardfelstead.com/sunday-times-article-satanic-abuse-claims-doomed-our-girl/

Dr Fisher was subsequently interviewed by the police after our family lodged a formal complaint about arranging an illegal cremation, theft and perverting the course of justice.  Here is what Detective Sergeant Grant Lander, in a letter to Carol’s father, had to say about these allegations:

“You provided me with photographs and documents for Carol, which proves she had a very happy upbringing and was a loved and cherished daughter. However she seems to have suffered deteriorating mental and physical health from her early twenties up to her untimely death in June 2005. There is absolutely no evidence that I have obtained in my investigation that showed that Carol ever suffered abuse by yourself or any members of your family.”

Detective Sergeant Grant Lander also stated: ‘In fact I find it quite incredible that Dr Fisher seemed to take everything Carol told her on face value’.

(4) Dr Fisher confirms when she is making this telephone call from Carol’s flat that she is removing all of Carol’s possessions.

Carol did not make a will; Dr Fisher did not go through Probate. She had no legal right to dispose of Carol’s possessions which, under Probate Law, belonged to Carol’s family.

Dr Fisher was interviewed under Police caution. The interview took place on 16 April 2009 in Wandsworth Police Station. Dr Fisher said in interview that she needed to clear Carol’s flat out urgently as she had received a Demand for Recovery of Premises from Servite Housing Association.  Detective Sergeant Lander provided a summary of this interview to Carol’s father in which he states that this rebuts any suggestion of dishonest intent. This is patent nonsense.

Here is the real housing policy of Servite Houses, the Housing Association responsible for Carol’s flat. It has been extracted from ‘Servite Houses – Your Tenancy With Us’, reference SH RH 0509:

‘Upon your death, your executors must continue to pay four weeks’ rent while your belongings are being removed from the property or until the keys have been returned, whichever is the latest.’

According to this statement, there was not an urgent imperative from the housing association to clear Carol’s flat. The need to empty out a dead person’s flat immediately after their death is not supported by the Housing Association’s own tenant’s policy.

Carol lived in an unfurnished flat. Therefore all of the furnishings in the flat belonged to Carol. Our family are in possession of a copy of Carol’s Housing Benefit Form (written by Carol) which confirms this.

The Metropolitan Police, despite interviewing Dr Fisher under police caution, have never explained to our family what happened to the contents of Carol’s flat.

(5) Dr Fisher confirms that she is arranging Carol’s Cremation.

Dr Fisher is arranging Carol’s cremation in the the full knowledge that our family has not even been informed of Carol’s death. It is a criminal offence to falsely complete Cremation Forms.

(6) Dr Fisher declares that Carol was her unofficial daughter.

This statement is absolutely ridiculous. No one in our family had even heard of Dr Fisher before Carol’s death. Dr Fisher is the ex-Head of ethics of the British Medical Association. She is also a professional ethicist who delivers lectures and workshops on maintaining ethical boundaries between Doctors and Patients. How ethical was this relationship?

(7) The insurance employee states that Carol is owed a refund on her insurance. The insurance employee then states that the money is to be refunded to Carol’s credit card on the 12th July 2005. Dr Fisher can be heard in the taped recording of this telephone call requesting that this money should be sent to her. Copies of the transaction details provided by Diamond Insurance state that this refund was for £357.04.

(8) Dr Fisher states that she is insuring Carol’s Car for three days and is driving the car to Plymouth, where she lives. She had no legal entitlement to take Carol’s car.

Following Carol’s Death, her father contacted the DVLA and put a scrapping order on the car. No member of our family has ever seen this car or driven it. The car was registered as scrapped by the DVLA at an ATF Plant in London, on 30th September 2005. We have a print-out of the details of the destruction. We would like to know what happened to the car in the three month period after Dr Fisher had driven it to Plymouth.

Evidence that Dr Fisher did not have any legal right to represent Carol in any Capacity

Note: Documents have been redacted to remove personal details.

Letters of Administration from the High Court of Justice

The Letters of Administration grant Carol’s father the legal right to deal with Carol’s affairs and possessions.  Such rights exist in association with those inherent in being the father of the deceased.  Since this is a printed copy it does not bear the Court Seal. We do have the original copy with the embossed seal. Click here

Probate Registry Search

Our family instigated a search with the Probate Registry. This letter states that Carol did not make a will and therefore did not bequeath her possessions to anyone.  Probate Law then applies, with the possessions falling to the direct members of the deceased’s family. Click here

Certificate of Search from the Public Guardianship Office on behalf of the Court of Protection

The Court of Protection exists to administer the affairs and estates of those permanently or temporarily mentally incapacitated.  The search was made to establish whether Carol legally provided Dr Fisher or any other person with Enduring Powers of Attorney.  None were ever assigned during Carol’s life or after it.  Carol was registered as mentally disabled; therefore all powers of Attorney and Receivership could only be invested by the Court of Protection. Click here

Reply from the Public Guardianship Office on behalf of the Court of Protection

After enquiring whether Powers of Receivership or of Enduring Powers of Attorney have been granted by the Court of Protection to anyone before or after Carol’s death, the Public Guardianship Office searched their records and concluded no application had ever been made.  Carol did not legally appoint anyone to administer her affairs. Click here

Letter from Wandsworth Council confirming Non-Existence of Carer

Carol did not register herself as having a Carer with Wandsworth Council. She also specifically wrote to them stating that she did not have a Carer.  We have copies of this statement written in Carol’s own handwriting. Click here

Rules of Intestacy

This is an Authoritative diagram from TaxationWeb (www.taxationweb.co.uk) demonstrating the rules of intestacy in a simple and easy to understand manner. According to the Rules of Intestacy, Dr Fisher was not legally entitled to dispose of Carol’s possessions at any time. Click here

Medical Records

Following her death, Carol’s father wrote to her doctor to request copies of Carol’s medical records. Carol’s GP, Dr Staples, refused to supply details from her medical files, on the grounds that her records remained confidential – even following her death. Our family believe that decision is appalling.

We did eventually obtain from the Primary Care Trust (PCT) Carol’s medical records (what is left of them). These records were legally obtained in 2008 following a Freedom of Information Request. When we received these records, the first twenty one years of Carol’s life – with the exception of 3 documents – were missing.  All sectioning medical records are missing. Many pre-operative and post-operative medical records for a number of operations are missing.

Carol’s father was informed by the PCT that on the very day that he contacted Dr Staples to obtain copies of Carol’s medical records, Dr Staples requested that all of Carol’s medical files be returned to herself. Dr Staples kept these files for 9 months. Our family would like to know what happened to Carol’s missing medical records. These records will reveal categorically that Carol’s physical and psychological health was exemplary before the age of 21.

We do have a letter in Carol’s notes which states that Dr Fisher gave Carol counselling in 1986. Carol was aged 22 at this time. All medical notes relating to this treatment are also missing. However, the onset of Carol’s physical and mental deterioration can be pinpointed exactly to this period when she first came under the influence of Dr Fisher. Amongst the medical records which we have in our possession are a number which demonstrate that Dr Fisher was fully aware of the existence of Carol’s family.

Next of Kin Status

Here is the law in relation to next of kin status.

An individual claiming to be next of kin – whether genuinely or falsely as in Dr Fisher’s case – has no legal rights. Probate, Powers of Attorney, Enduring Powers of Attorney (or Lasting Attorney, as it is now called), Powers of Receivership, and appointments by the High Court take precedence.

Without other legal entitlement, next of kin status has no special legal validity. In the House of Commons on 13 June 2006, Harriet Harman, the Minister of State, Department for Constitutional Affairs, said that the law relating to next of kin was not going to be changed:

“Being someone’s next of kin does not automatically give a person the right to do anything. Being next of kin does not, for example, give a person a right to bury someone, or to administer their estate.” (Source: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmhansrd/cm060613/text/60613w0886.htm#0606147000455. This online link to the parliamentary debates has since been removed. A new one can be found here: www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2006-06-13b.76572.h.)

A copy will of course still exist in the records of Hansard for the day. Next of kin status has thus been defined by a Minister of State.

False Allegations

Dr Fisher passed the ridiculous and totally unbelievable document to which we’ve previously referred, to both the Metropolitan Police and to the Coroner’s Office. The document made a number of preposterous (and, quite frankly, impossible) claims, such as:  that Carol’s mum had murdered another daughter Joan Julie Felstead in 1967, sat the dead baby on top of Carol and then attempted to murder Carol by setting the house on fire (Joan Julie is also not named and is referred to as ‘my sister who was born with Down’s Syndrome’).

The Coroner’s Officer informed our family that Carol had changed her name by deed poll some years earlier. Our family were completely unaware of this fact, though it does help to explain why it had previously been difficult to contact Carol.

Carol had been repeatedly sectioned under the Mental Health Act. As Carol’s nearest relative was never informed, this sectioning was illegal under the Mental Health Act. Our family had no knowledge of Carol’s mental illness, for reasons which will become clear. Given Carol’s severe mental health problems, our family are frankly astonished that these claims were  accepted as having any basis in fact by both the Metropolitan Police and the Coroner’s Office.

In addition to the so-called Life Assessment document, Carol’s father was then informed by the Coroner’s Assistant that he had been involved in a court case in which he and the rest of his family were supposed to have been the defendants in a major criminal trial accused of Satanic Ritual Abuse. This court case did not occur; it was completely fictitious.  We instigated a police investigation into it and it was proven that it had never existed. But this fictitious court trial was recorded on Metropolitan Police systems as if it had actually occurred.  The trial is meant to have taken place in the late 1980’s/early 1990’s.  (Carol’s mother and father are not named explicitly (they are mentioned generically as mother and father). The trial is supposed to have collapsed.)  As previously mentioned – in an interview with journalist Daniel Foggo (published in the Sunday Times on 12 June 2011), Fisher confirmed that Carol had ”no knowledge” of ritual abuse when she first saw her.  A link to the article can be found here: http://www.richardfelstead.com/sunday-times-article-satanic-abuse-claims-doomed-our-girl/

These slanderous allegations were placed on intelligence systems of the Metropolitan Police Force. These claims are completely false. However, the Coroner’s Assistant left Carol’s father in no doubt whatsoever that these allegations were accepted with deadly seriousness – that is as real events which actually took place. At no point in 2005 were these allegations simply considered to be the outpouring of an unbalanced and disturbed mind. In consequence, Carol’s father wrote to the Coroner’s Office and provided family photographs, a copy of Carol’s school leaving certificate together with death certificates to demonstrate that these events did not occur. Carol’s father has a copy of this letter.

After being informed about these false allegations, we questioned the Data Protection Team of the Metropolitan Police and upon receiving answers of a totally unsatisfactory nature, immediately instigated an Independent Police Complaints Commission inquiry into these events which involved Greater Manchester Police, Cheshire Constabulary and the Metropolitan Police.

The results of this inquiry were:

  • There had never been a court case.
  • Joan Julie Felstead (who suffered from Downs Syndrome) died a medically documented natural death in Stepping Hill Hospital, Stockport, on the 7th October 1962; the date and details of her death are on her death certificate
  • The fire was a real event based on a household accident and took place in 1963; it was reported in the local newspaper at the time – the ‘Stockport Express’ – as being a tragic, accidental event, but, fortunately, no-one was serious injured. Our family have a copy of the original article, which shows that Carol’s mother was extremely upset and distressed at the time.
  • Carol was born on June 8th 1964 in Stepping Hill Hospital in Stockport, as is apparent by looking at her birth certificate.
  • Therefore Carol was not alive as she had not been born when Joan Julie died or when the fire took place. These events are not just false, they are actually impossible.

On receipt of Carol’s medical records, our family believe that we have found where this purported life assessment has come from. In Carol’s psychiatric notes, she states that two former Cabinet Members abused her at Conservative Party Headquarters, and that these well- known politicians and our family were all members of a Satanic Cult. Carol also said that she suspected that the police and medical doctors were part of the cult. The conclusion of Carol’s psychiatrist was that Carol was delusional. The Carol we knew would never have said anything as ridiculous as this. What has happened in the copy of the purported life assessment passed by Dr Fisher to the Metropolitan Police is that the two Cabinet Members and the Police have been removed so that the alleged perpetrators are only our family. We believe that Dr Fisher’s intention in passing this purported life assessment over to the police was to have members of our family arrested and imprisoned for crimes that never even occurred.

Recovered Memory Therapy

From Carol’s medical records and other information that we have acquired since Carol’s death, it appears that Carol had been given ‘regressive memory therapy’ or recovered memory therapy as it is commonly known. The basis for the therapy is that a patient turns up at a doctors with an innocuous complaint like stomach ache. No physical cause can be found, so the doctor asserts that the cause must be psychological. The patient is then referred for therapy.

The therapist asserts that the patient has suffered some kind of terrible abuse – which he/she has repressed and therefore have no conscious memories of whatsoever; this, unbelievably, is supposed to be the case, even if the abuse is meant to have occurred thousands of times over many years. The purpose of recovered memory therapy is to recover the ‘lost memories’. Some patients receiving this treatment have undergone drug-assisted interviewing (using sodium amytal), hypnosis and age regression.  We believe that this therapy was responsible for Carol’s mental illness. After having this treatment, Carol became convinced that she had been a victim of events which never actually occurred.

After receiving recovered memory therapy, Carol’s medical records reveal that she made claims that are so preposterous that nobody would believe them without some evidence, except it seems Dr Fisher,  Carol’s therapists and other like-minded individuals who never bothered to check if any of these ridiculous claims were actually true. Carol’s medical records also reveal that her therapy was supported with extensive medication.

Before meeting Dr Fisher in 1985, Carol was a fully qualified nurse, capable of running a hospital ward. Carol was a happy, sociable and outgoing young woman. Carol enjoyed her life and seemed to have the world in front of her. Carol’s brother used to work at the same hospital and regularly had his tea break with Carol when they both used to work the same shift. Carol was independent and had moved away from home, although she maintained regular contact with her family. She had a regular boyfriend with whom Carol’s brother still occasionally has contact. Carol had a very normal life with a bright future ahead of her.

We now know that after 1985, because of Dr Fisher’s secretive involvement in separating Carol from her family, Carol’s contact with the family became less and less frequent and she moved away to live in London.  Throughout the last twenty years of her life Carol maintained sporadic but relatively regular contact with the family; about once every eighteen months she would contact various members of the family and send birthday cards and Christmas cards.

The reason that Carol always gave for the lack of contact with her family was that she was furthering her career. This was never really convincing and the lack of contact with Carol was frustrating, to say the least. Carol’s family made repeated attempts to contact her, but we now realise that these attempts were hampered significantly by the fact that Carol had apparently changed her name by deed poll in 1992. Our family simply never had any idea that Carol was mentally unwell – ever. Her mental illness was deliberately kept from us by Carol and by Dr Fisher.

Carol’s gradual separation from her family was very difficult to accept. It broke her parents’ hearts and although it was something which we had to come to terms with, it didn’t really make any sense. There were periods when we didn’t have a contact address or telephone number, but we now know that when our family  were under the illusion she was a nurse working in various hospitals, furthering her career, the real truth is that Carol was a mental patient who spent a considerable amount of her adult life in various mental institutions. Carol was asked repeatedly to make more of an effort to contact us. She would always state that she was not having any problems and that she was working shifts and pursuing her career. Carol living in London and the rest of our family living in Stockport did not help. We were forced, with much regret, to accept that Carol was an independent adult and was moving on with her life. Although she did ring up and send birthday and Christmas cards, all of which tended to contain the message of how she would come to see us in the near future, nobody in our family actually saw Carol from 1995 onwards.

Two of the therapists who treated Carol are Vera Diamond – or Vera Diamond-Carruthers – as she is sometimes known and Valerie Sinason.

Here are a couple of examples of their beliefs:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-1492.html

British therapist, Vera Diamond, working with people subjected to Satanic and mind control abuse says, “Children say the word Satan is used more frequently than any other, but other demons include Baphomet and Behemoth. Molech seems to be one particularly associated with eating babies, and one called Choronzon. These do seem to be associated with eating babies. p299 Biggest Secret

Below is a video clip of Vera Diamond, where she reconstructs a therapy session and describes her belief in satanic cults. Further information about this video clip: http://www.saff.ukhq.co.uk/devilvid.htm

http://www.saff.ukhq.co.uk/indyhoax.htmPlease follow this link for Valerie Sinason and man eating dead baby.

Carol was also treated by other prominent believers in Satanic Abuse such as Robert Hale. Carol’s medical records contain a letter written by Dr Hale. The letter is dated 28 May 1993 and it is signed by Dr Hale. The letter confirms that Carol had received weekly therapy from Hale and Valerie Sinason, over an eight- month period. Significantly, Carol was placed on the mental health register in 1992. Dr Hale’s prognosis is that Carol was a victim of Satanist abuse and this abuse had begun in ‘very early childhood.’ In Carol’s psychiatric notes, it states that her parents were the High Priest and High Priestess of a Satanic Cult. Our family are supposed to have dug up graves and performed ritual sacrifices, which include murder. Here is a letter written by Valerie Sinason to a Dr Frances Raphael on 9th July 1997. In the letter Valerie Sinason confirms that Carol was the first Satanic Ritual Abuse patient that she had treated. As Carol was not a victim of Satanic Ritual Abuse, as there was no ritual cult whatsoever, as Carol was never abused or injured in any way, shape or form, and as the events attributed to Carol’s life did not happen and were incontrovertibly impossible, Dr Valerie Sinason’s method for treating patients such as Carol was clearly invalid, irrational, and dangerous. Page 1, Click here Page 2, Click here.

Update: Here is an excerpt from a Valerie Sinason  interview with journalist Will Storr (The Observer Magazine, 11 December 2011), which gives an insight into Sinason’s belief system.

Sinason arrives, in her north London counselling room, tanned and relaxed in a loose smock, dark leggings and trainers. There’s a chaise longue with a crowd of teddies resting in its crook. On the floor, shoved beneath a table, a large cloth boy gazes sadly into space. We’re joined by her husband David, who takes notes throughout our talk.

Sinason insists she doesn’t use recovered-memory techniques. “I’m an analytic therapist,” she says. “The idea of that is someone showing, through their behaviour, that all sorts of things might have happened to them.” Signs that a patient has suffered satanically include flinching at green or purple objects, the colours of the high priest and priestess’s robes. “And if someone shudders when they enter a room, you know it’s not ordinary incest.”

Another warning, she says, is the patient saying: “I don’t know.” “What they really mean is: ‘I can’t bear to say.’” A patient who “overpraises” their family is also suspicious. “The more insecure you are, the more you praise. ‘Oh my family was wonderful! I can’t remember any of it!’”

In the medical records, Sinason noted that Carole was her first chronic sadistic-abuse patient. Today, when I ask about her first patient, Sinason describes the arrival of two medical professionals – a nurse and a psychologist – one of whom was limping.

“I just had that nasty feeling,” she says. “It’s her, and she’s been hurt by them.”

“You could tell that from the limp?” I ask.

“Yep.”

Soon, we get to the actual satanism. Sinason talks of a popular ritual in which a child is stitched inside the belly of a dying animal before being ‘reborn to satan’. During other celebrations, “people eat faeces, menstrual blood, semen, urine. There’s cannibalism.” Some groups have doctors performing abortions. “They give the foetus to the mother and she’s made to kill the baby.”

“And the cannibalism – that’s foetuses?” I clarify.

“Foetuses and bits of bodies.”

“Raw or cooked?”

“The foetuses are raw.”

“Not even a bit of salt and pepper?” I ask.

“Raw. And handed round like communion. On one major festival, the babies are barbecued. I can still remember one survivor saying how easy it is to pull apart the ribs on a baby. But adults are tougher to eat.”

She describes large gatherings in woodlands and castles, with huge cloths being laid out. “That’s normally when there’s a sacrifice,” she notes, “and because the rapes are happening all over the place. There’s a small amount of cannon fodder in terms of runaways, drug addicts, prostitutes and tramps that are used. There’s sex with animals. Horses, dogs, goats. Being hanged upside down. In the woods, on a tree.”

“How do they get an animal to have sex with a human?” I wonder.

Sinason’s husband thinks for a moment. “Well,” he says, “plenty of dogs have a go at people’s legs.” “True,” says Sinason, adding poignantly: “However horrible it sounds, the dog, at least, is friendly afterwards.”

“Because at least the dog’s had a good time,” I say.

“And the child loves the pet,” Sinason nods. “The pet is made to have sex with the child – but the pet, at least, is still their friend.” A link to the full article can be found here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/dec/11/carole-myers-satanic-child-abuse

Carol’s medical history is littered with the who’s who of Satanic Ritual Abuse believers. The myth of Satanic Ritual Abuse is in our opinion a national scandal. And it is a scandal which needs exposing. In 1994, Valerie Sinason edited a collection of essays about putative satanic abuse. The book, Treating Survivors of Satanist Abuse, was reviewed by one commentator as: ‘useful for anyone who needs a startling, clear demonstration of the amazing ability of 20th century human beings to persuade themselves firmly to believe in utter claptrap and nonsense.’ Carol almost certainly forms one of the case studies discussed in chapter 32 of the book.

Conclusion

It is our settled opinion that any doctor who attempts to illegally cremate a patient, takes their possessions after they have died, and does not inform the family about the death of their relative, should be prosecuted, struck off the Medical Register, and never allowed to practice again.

Illegal Cremation

Falsely filling in details on cremation forms (or knowingly allowing the Coroner to do so) is perverting the course of justice and is also a criminal offence under the Cremation Act. Cremation forms are very specific – if someone other than the family is arranging the cremation, it has to be stated why the family are not arranging the cremation.

The following are quotes from a standard cremation form, as in use today. It is Cremation Form 1 and replaces Cremation Form A, however the questions below have been common to cremation forms for many years.

Part 4 The application

1. Are you a near relative or an executor of the person who has died?

Near relative means the widow, widower or surviving civil partner of the person who has died, or a parent or child of the person who has died, or any other relative usually residing with the person who has died.

If no, please give the nature of your relationship and explain why you are

making the application rather than a near relative or an executor.

2. Is there any near relative(s) or executor(s) who has not been informed of the proposed cremation?

4. What was the date and time of death of the person who has died?

 

Part 6 Statement of truth

 

. I am aware that the facts given in this application are true. I am aware that it is an offence to wilfully make a false statement with a view to obtaining the cremation of any human remains.

 

[A printed name, with a signature and date are then required to complete the form.]

Metropolitan Police Investigation

The Metropolitan Police conducted a 15 month investigation into Dr Fisher, after we lodged a formal complaint. Dr Fisher was interviewed under caution in Wandsworth Police Station. The investigation concluded in 2009. Our family lodged a formal complaint against Dr Fisher regarding arranging an illegal cremation, perverting the course of justice and theft of Carol’s possessions from her flat and the theft of Carol’s car. On 16 October 2009, DS Lander wrote to Carol’s father: ‘I have now heard from the Crown Prosecution Service. They have advised me that there is insufficient evidence for a realistic prospect of a conviction in this case. Therefore no further action will be taken against Dr Fisher.’ As part of his investigation, DS Lander conducted enquiries with the Coroner’s Office, Servite Housing Association and Diamond Insurance Company. This investigation lasted approximately fifteen months.  The investigation conducted by Detective Sergeant Lander is different from every other criminal case in the United Kingdom in that the investigation does not have a crime reference number, case reference number or a crown prosecution service reference number or any other unique identifying reference number whatsoever. The investigation is not recorded on the Crime Report Information System (CRIS). This fact has been confirmed by the Independent Police Complaints Commission. Our family are staggered by the sheer incompetence of this investigation. Page 1, Click here Page 2, Click here Page 3, Click here Page 4, Click here.

 

Dr Fisher can be heard in the taped recording on 7 July 2005 to Carol’s insurance company stating that she is emptying Carol’s flat and insuring Carol’s car, so that she can drive it home to Plymouth.

Detective Lander stated in his investigation that Dr Fisher told him in interview under police caution that she deposited the car at the Coroner’s Office and that our family drove it away. A subsequent investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission concluded that Dr Fisher deposited the keys to Carol’s car, at the Coroner’s Office.

Sergeant Lander has a copy of the taped recording from Carol’s insurance company.

Detective Sergeant Lander has stated that he believes that a member of our family collected the car from the Coroner’s Office. This statement is ridiculous and completely false. No member of our family has ever seen the car. We are appalled at his incompetence. We have asked him, in writing, to provide a signature from the Coroner’s Office of the family member who was supposed to have picked up the car. He has not replied.

The Coroner’s Office are also completely aware that the only time that they have ever seen any member of our family was at the inquest into Carol’s death on the 12th August 2005.

The car was registered as scrapped by the DVLA at an ATF Plant in London, on 30th September 2005. We have a print-out of the details of the destruction. If a member of our family is supposed to have collected the car from the Coroner’s Office, then they would have had to:

(a) Travel from Stockport to London.

(b) Get the car and the keys from the Coroner’s Office without having to sign for the car.

(c) Drive the car uninsured back to Stockport.

(d) Keep the car uninsured for three months.

(e) Drive the car back up to London uninsured and then scrap it at London Auto Parts in London.

(f) Travel back from London to Stockport.

This scenario is totally false.

The insurance policy granted to Dr Fisher by Diamond Insurance Company (8 days after Carol’s death) lasted for 3 days. The insurance expired on 11 July. Our family were not informed of Carol’s death until 14 July. How on earth could we have driven the car away when we did not even know that Carol had died?

There is also another problem with this scenario. According to the inquest transcript, the Coroner’s Assistant, Sharon Marshall, identified Carol on the 12th July 2005. If Dr Fisher deposited the car at the Coroner’s Office it must have been between the 7th July 2005 and the 11th July 2005, unless she drove the car uninsured. If Dr Fisher deposited the car at the Coroner’s Office for our family to collect, then the Coroner’s Office must have been aware of the existence of our family between the 7th July 2005 and the 11th July 2005. If the statement in the inquest transcript is true, why did Sharon Marshall identify Carol on the 12th July 2005 instead of informing our family of Carol’s death? And why did she not then ask a member of our family to identify Carol?

We believe that the statement in the inquest transcript that Sharon Marshall identified Carol on the 12th July 2005 is false. We do not know why. As a pre-inquest had already taken place without our knowledge on the 4th July, we believe that Carol’s identity was clearly already known.

We do not believe that Dr Fisher deposited the car at the Coroner’s Office. We believe that she drove it to Plymouth where she lives, exactly like she states in the recording to Diamond Insurance Company. We do not know what she did with the car after she drove it to her home in Plymouth.

False Information passed to the Metropolitan Police by Dr Fisher

We cannot understand how and why the false information about our family was recorded on Police Systems, yet the investigation conducted by the Metropolitan Police into Dr Fisher is not recorded on the Crime Report Information System.

The General Medical Council Investigation into Dr Fisher (GMC Case Reference Number: IH/CI-231021645)

The General Medical Council have seen all of the evidence in this case and state that there is not enough evidence to put Dr Fisher before a fitness to practise panel. To demonstrate to the public how wrong this shocking and outrageous decision is, given the evidence provided to the GMC, we have provided our full complaint to the GMC below.

The Involvement of the GMC

General Medical Council (GMC) Investigating Officer in the case:

Ian Howell
Investigation Officer
Standards & Fitness to Practise Directorate
Direct Line: 020 7189 5166
Direct Fax: 020 7189 5103
Address for correspondence: 3 Hardman St, Manchester M3 3AW.

On the 11th November 2009 we received an email from Detective Sergeant Lander who stated that during his ongoing investigation into our complaint against Dr Fisher he had received an enquiry from the General Medical Council who were requesting disclosure of his investigation under their fitness to practise procedures. Detective Sergeant Grant Lander then provided the GMC with details of his investigation.

On the 14 March 2010, we received a letter from Detective Sergeant Lander, in the letter he stated that he had received a letter from the GMC. They had informed him that their Fitness to Practise enquiry with regard to Dr Fisher had been concluded and no further action was to be taken.

During their entire investigation into Dr Fisher’s fitness to practice, the GMC did not ever contact my family for any input from us. We were appalled that the GMC were not taking any action against Dr Fisher and we think it is an absolute disgrace that they did not contact us. We subsequently contacted the GMC and on the 31st March 2010, Ian Howell confirmed that the GMC had indeed reached the conclusion that there was insufficient evidence to support the allegations and no realistic prospect of establishing that Dr Fisher’s fitness to practise was impaired to a degree justifying action on her registration and that the case was now closed.

As we did not know how much information Detective Sergeant Lander had actually provided to the GMC in regards to his investigation, in order to ensure that the GMC were definitely supplied with all of the evidence in our case, we informed Ian Howell that we would be submitting a complaint in due course directly from ourselves to the GMC.

Here is the actual complaint that was made to the GMC. Please click here to view it.

On the 6 May 2011, Ian Howell confirmed that he had been passed our complaint from the 11th March 2011 against Dr Fleur Fisher and he had been asked to respond.

He stated that the allegations in our complaint had been  previously considered by the GMC and closed by the case examiners with no action and confirmed that the case reference is: C1-231021645.

The last week of Carol’s life

Carol sent her mum and dad a Christmas card in December 2004; in the card she stated that she would be coming to visit them in the early part of 2005. We still have the Christmas card. Carol did not visit and nothing further was heard from Carol until the 21st June 2005. Carol also spoke with her brother twice on the last week of her life. She stated that she was fed up with living in London because she was lonely and wanted to come back to be near her family. Carol was supposed to be coming to Stockport on the week that she died. The next week she was dead.

What would have happened if Carol’s brother had not written to her on 29 June? Presumably the cremation arranged by Dr Fisher would have gone ahead as planned. We would not even know that she had died. Our family are extremely concerned that this may have happened to other vulnerable, mentally ill women. Carol was given recovered memory therapy and then deliberately separated from her family. This was done in total secrecy. Her name was changed in secret. She was illegally sectioned under the Mental Health Act in secret. She was almost cremated in secret.

Our family have obtained copies of Carol’s telephone records; they show that Carol rang her brother on the last week of her life. The very next call that Carol makes is to Dr Fisher. We believe that Dr Fisher knew that Carol wanted to come back to live in Stockport with her family. Dr Fisher must also have known that if Carol actually met our family, then her involvement in Carol’s life over the last twenty years would be revealed.

Dr Fisher did not appear at Carol’s inquest. Dr Fisher did not attend Carol’s funeral. Dr Fisher did not make any enquiries about where Carol’s funeral was taking place. Dr Fisher did not send flowers or a card to the funeral. In our opinion, Dr Fisher’s influence on Carol’s life has been malign from beginning to end, and has continued in that vein after Carol’s death.

As a result of the secretive separation of Carol from her family over the last twenty years by Dr Fisher, our family has only had limited contact with Carol, whereas Dr Fisher has had a controlling relationship with Carol involving a lot of personal contact. As a result, a number of people and organisations, including the Metropolitan Police, seem to believe that Dr Fisher was entitled to represent Carol. This conclusion is completely wrong. Dr Fisher had no legal entitlement to represent Carol in any capacity whatsoever. She had no legal right to arrange Carol’s cremation and to dispose of Carol’s possessions. Our family do not believe that any other doctor would behave like this. We do not believe that any other doctor would arrange a cremation. We do not believe that any other doctor would have disposed of Carol’s possessions. Nor do we believe that any other doctor would have acted as next of kin and executor without any legal authority to do so.

Our family think that Dr Fisher’s behaviour is an absolute disgrace. We are equally appalled that the authorities will not take action against her. Indeed, it is the considered view of our family that they are protecting Dr Fisher. Our family want to expose this scandal and get justice for Carol. Carol’s life was precious to our family.

A system is in place which permits anybody to arrange a cremation without the dead person’s family being informed of their relative’s death. At present this can be done without having to produce any supporting legal documents. There is no legal process in place that will prevent illegal cremations. The police do not have a legal obligation to check for direct family and apparently neither does the Coroner’s Office. The process needs to be changed so that it is impossible to arrange an illegal cremation or burial. It must be made mandatory by law that a search for the family of the deceased is made in order to inform them of the death of their relative. It should not be possible to cremate or bury anyone without any legal entitlement to do so.

103 Responses to Ex-Head of Ethics of the British Medical Association Attempts Illegal Cremation of Vulnerable Mentally Ill Patient

  1. Pamela Freyd says:

    What a tragic story! I am not sure how the FMS Foundation can help. We can certainly write about your story in the next FMSF Newsletter.

  2. mel matthews says:

    my heart goes out to your family, i think yous are entitled to some explanations and this dr fisher should be prosecuted and struck off,
    this detective sgt lander seems to be in cohorts with dr fisher and should be thoroughly investigated by scotland yard,
    i hope you all get the proper outcome you are entitled to, regards mel matthews.

  3. ian F says:

    At best this is a case of theft, malpractice and incompetence. At worst ……… I hate to think. The police must pick this up, otherwise there is no justice

  4. Jason Carroll says:

    I though the British criminal system was bent and corrupt but this beggers belief. you need answers.

  5. amanda woolfoot says:

    This is the most disturbing story I have ever heard of. My thoughts are with you, and I hope that you will get justice, surely this is the least you would expect given all the facts.

  6. J McPartland and L Sutcliffe says:

    How sad, our thoughts are with your family……these people are in a position of trust and things like this shouldnt be aloud to happen, justice for Carol and answers and truth for her family so you can at least get closure….Good Luck x

  7. doug mesner says:

    So it is with Recovered Memory Therapy again and again. Valerie Sinason is a sick, twisted, and depraved individual who helped build the delusional, conspiracist notions that still plague the minds of the vulnerable who were unfortunate enough to find themselves in therapy with quacks who believed her pornographic, supernatural horror stories. I believe her wikipedia entry needs revising:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Sinason

  8. bill felstead says:

    I remember our discussion on Castle street and you said “I would be shocked” well uncle Joe that does not cover it, I am appalled and the little faith I had in our so called legal system has now gone.
    As a family we should all step forward and fight this appalling case.
    Thinking of you all

  9. Colin Richardson says:

    It is the right of every human being to be able to get justice for their loved one’s. This is clearly not the case here. This casue should be looked at by an independent inquiry and the truth established. Absolutely disgusting.

  10. Karen L says:

    This is an appalling story my heart goes out to you all. Have you tried engaging the help of your local MP?

  11. Morwenna says:

    I hope you get justice for Carol.

  12. shaun edwards says:

    i really do hope you get ‘justice for carol’. Reading this i never would’ve imagined professionals who your supposed to trust with your life not to play with for their sadistic pleasures could be so sick. Hope all goes well bset wishes shaun

  13. James Felstead says:

    My niece, Carol was a most lovely girl in every way.It is atrocious that she should die in these circumstances. My brother Joseph and his sons have been fighting for several years to get justice and find the truth about Carols death.They have had to fight for every peice of evidence in this Justice for Carol exposee. I hope that this Doctor Fleur Fisher will be compelled to answer for her wicked ways in her treatment of Carol and my brother Joseph and his family. Justice for Carol now.

  14. Paula H says:

    I am so very sad for your family and the way you have been treated over the death of Carol. What has happened regarding cover ups within the police and politicians does not surprise me at all. I too have had experience of such matters and felt completely at a loss as to who to go to in order to obtain justice. These powerful people close ranks and guard each others backs. To those who are an exception to this rule please accept my apology. However I believe you are few and far between.
    Your family are a credit in your strength and determination to bring this terrible story to the front. Good luck in all you do to help Carol.

    • dave smethurst says:

      You are absolutely on the money. I have just had an open and shut libel case against a doctor thrown out. The way i was treated in court was disgusting and clearly orchestrated. The judge was furious that I had the audacity to sue as an LIP and the doctors solicitor is now trying to ruin me with a costs claim. It is all bent, right to the top. Nothing about Carole’s story surprises me in the slightest. This doctor conspired with my son’s stepfather after his mother’s premature death to uphold an ADHD diagnosis she knew beyond doubt was false and strained every sinue to assist in his enforced drugging to keep control of him. He is now with me and his brother and sister recovering. His life would, without doubt, have been completely destroyed.

  15. aunty margaret uncle colin says:

    Think of you all the time carol and i hope justice will be done.

  16. Sheri Byce says:

    While the details following Carol’s death are beyond tragic, the scenario preceding her death has become tragically familiar. From America, Spain, China and the UK, many patients and their families have been tortured by devastating fallout from (iatrogenic) recovered memories. This site is thorough and your passion for answers and justice, evident. Bring your story to the media – news stations, etc. Outrage for Carol and for your family will be an impetus for proper investigation and prosecution of each responsible party. My heart goes out to you.

  17. Karen Douglas-Bhanot says:

    I always remember my cousin Carol as a really happy, smiley girl – full of life! I feel so sad that her last years were unhappy ones and that her life was cut short and ended the way it did. Uncle Joe – I’m really sorry you and your family have had to go through what can only be described as a nightmare – my heart goes out to you.

    However, I think you’re doing absolutely the right thing by publicising all the details, even though it must have cost you a lot of personal heartache to do so, and I hope you get justice soon..

    Sending love to you all xxx

  18. Helen & John Disley says:

    I seriously think that the investigation into Dr Fisher needs to be revisited, I think you shouldnt give up no matter what happens until you find the truth. You should add a petition section to this site, so that you can obtain names addresses etc to go to the police with and hope that they will re-investigate this case. especially since youve already done the best part of the investigation for them, not to mention that the cause of death is still not determined. Is Dr Fisher still in medical practice, are there others you are not aware off???? so many questions that the police should consider but most importantly “what happened to Carol???” and “what was Dr Fishers part, motives, etc???” We wish you all the best and hope that you find peace soon in the truth

  19. I think that this is a case that Dr Fisher should be brought to justice because something in this story is untoward.
    I think Dr Fisher has caused enough grief to this family and I think that uncle Joe deserves answers.
    Dr fisher don’t you think that my uncle Joe needs answers now that he has lost his daughter and his wife.

  20. Tom Howling says:

    What a scary and sad story. It is alarming that none of the investigations that have taken place seem to have fully considered all the evidence presented here. It seems that a respected doctor in authority can do quite a lot without question still. It reminds me of how nobody suspected the respected GP who was Harold Shipman for so long. I too wonder if an MP could take this up – I am not sure what other options are still left open. I hope you eventually get some answers.

  21. julie chapman says:

    Dear uncle joe and the lads

    I cannot believe what you must have gone through as a family i’m sure you will get the justice that you all deserve so carol can rest in peace . As a family member you can count on my support .There are questions that must be answered and this has gone on for long enough lets have justice for carol x

  22. paul douglas says:

    I think it is disgusting the way dr fisher has acted and find it quite scary that she is in control of so many lives. I also think the truth would soon come out in a court room and it wouldnt take long for a jury to realise she has abused her position and is quite frankly a liar. Carol would be so proud of you as a family the way you have stayed strong and put all this together and i hope for your family and carol’s sake justice is served

  23. Keith Bottomley says:

    There needs to be a Royal Commission into this case. Apply for a Royal Commission.

  24. SIMON.G says:

    Shocking, wonder how many similar cases there are, all still covered up!, it needs dealing with otherwise sick twisted individuals like this will continue, hope for your family justice is served on a personal level and for sake of others!!

  25. Alan Dean says:

    This is a tragic story but this family must be given answers and not have to carry on suffering, it does however raise the question of what horrors may be uncovered ! Is this just a shocking single scenario or are the authorities frightened of what an independant enquiry may uncover ! They thought the respected Dr Shipman was just a friendly family doctor, this story has the potential to uncover many more victims of what i can only describe as a cult ! Isolating and brainwashing vulnerable people, stealing their identities,stealing all their posessions and ultimately their lives ! THIS INVESTIGATION MUST BE REVISITED.

  26. Lynn Bohlken says:

    Lovely sharp publish. By no means believed that it was this straightforward. Extolment to you!

  27. Donna Douglas says:

    Having read all the posts and evidence it is quite obvious this case needs to be taken higher and from an independent source. The involvement of all involved Dr Fisher, The Police and the Coroner need to be thoroughly investigated again. My thoughts go out to my uncle Joe and all his family. I hope you get the answers you deserve and then you may let Carol rest in peace and continue with your lives. Love to you all Donna Steve and Ryan xxx

  28. Simon T says:

    The evidence appears to lead one to suspect Dr Fleur Fisher cherry picked and groomed this girl and has abused her position of professional trust riding roughshod beyond authority with regard to record keeping, family and patient consent, and tried and tested mainstream peer reviewed medical procedures. It further appears she was able to make the GMC, Metropolitan Police, Coroners Office and the legal system lift off their hats and wave her through as it appears they all conveniently left things inconclusive as they felt she had a significant professional influence at board level and was too much part of the establishment. It seems they had very little knowledge of what is acceptable and reasonable with regard to experimental practise of such controversial techniques as ‘Recovered Memory Therapy’ – with the aid of Sodium Amytal etc and could not challenge with intellectual rigour and thoroughness all the ethical approval and research documentation when using human subjects of which the first and second stage outcomes should have been peer reviewed published and filed (where are they?) and therefore she was able to shake a stick at the establishment. It is painfully embarrassing and degrading to have to make an outcome fit the expected request to keep ones position. I could not do it. The apparent elimination of records and key witnesses being renamed as ‘a friend of her doctors’ in formal documents and non-entry of reference threads is a serious crime for the key people in the government authorities as it is a challenge to parliament from the evidence you have presented. There is enough evidence to take this on and to look at all the cases she has ever handled just like the Dr Harold Shipman enquiry as there will likely be a repeated pattern and then to investigate the apparent lack of accountability and record keeping that is allowed to go unchecked.
    Simon T

  29. anthonydunne says:

    On the basis of of that which is recounted above there are many unanswered questions, and if justice is to be seen to be done, then a full public enquiry should
    be undertaken.

  30. Nova says:

    You’ve done such a good job presenting your case. Here in Alabama we’d say you’re dealing with “The Good Old Boys Network.” Here this is marked by a network of goold old boys sticking together and going to battle to protect their own.

    Your story is so good that I think director Ron Howard would love to make a movie of this. Then these Good Old Boys will be exposed to the whole world for what they are and they or those above them will HAVE to do what’s right because of the public outcry.

    I have dealt with the “Good Old Boys Network of Shame” when my son was killed by a drunk hit and run driver who got out of her car looked at him and then doubled back to The New Year’s Eve Millennium where she got drunk in the first place and hid her car. She got charged with leaving the scene of an accident that caused an injury and driving without a license – the same charge she would have faced if she had merely broken a finger on his hand – instead of hitting him twice without ever applying the brakes – then dragging him down the median until his body finally broke loose from her car by falling in a ditch. I believe she had a dishonest lawyer as well as a politician in her family. In civil court, I represented myself in the wrongful death suit and won a million dollar judgement. Y’all could do the same and at least get some minor justice eventhough the money’s meaning is insignifigant to the hurt you have suffered.

    I shall pray for your family that you will feel Carol around you often. I hope you realize that if you can pray to God or Jesus, and Carol is right there with them, then you can pray to her. After all, that is the promise God makes…

    • Linda Whyte says:

      Your comment really touched me. To have gone through what you have gone through and then have the compassion to empathise with Carol’s family says a lot for you. A movie of Carol’s story would certainly expose a corrupt system (and I think the fact that Fleur was a doctor had a lot to do with what she got away with). I also think you are so right that you don’t ever really lose anyone. Your soul is not destroyed by ANY horrific events, including death.

  31. christine holden ( felstead ) says:

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! WHAT ARE THEY ALL HIDING? ITS ABOUT TIME THAT THE TRUTH CAME OUT, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN MET WITH UNACEPTABLE AVOIDANCE & LIES, COVERUPS. SOME ONE HAS TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL THIS!! & LET CAROL & HER FAMILY HAVE CLOSURE,,& PEACE. WE MUST ASK OURSELVES WHY THE PEOPLE INVOLVED ARE CLOSING RANKS. JUST WHAT IS IT THAT THEY ARE HIDING? OBVIOUSLY THE TRUTH!!.THEY ARE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE PILLARS OF THE COMMUNITY OF WHOM THE PUBLIC TRUST. POLICE, DOCTORS, BUT THAT DOES NOT GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO CHEAT CAROL & HER FAMILY OUT OF TRUTHFUL ANSWERS,AND EXPLANATIONS OF THE HORRENDOUS AND HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS ACTS THAT HAVE LEAD TO THE DEATH OF CAROL, ITS SO OBVIOUS THAT THIS IS ONE MASSIVE COVERUP, AND THAT THIS SO CALLED DR HAS AN INPUT INTO THIS, & CONTROL OVER THE PUBLIC FIGURES, OR ARE THEY ALL IN THIS SECRET SECT? WHY CAN’T THE FAMILY HAVE JUSTICE? WHY CAN’T THEY HAVE HONEST ANSWERS? WHY CAN’T THE POLICE RELEASE THE 999 CALL THAT WAS MADE BY THE SO CALLED DR? & WHY?. MAYBE THEY HOPE THE FAMILY WILL GIVE UP, AND THIS WILL DIE DOWN!! WHY ISN’T THERE SOMEONE OUT THERE THAT CAN PROVIDE ALL THESE ANSWERS, & HAS THE AUTHORITY TO SAY “GIVE CAROL & HER FAMILY JUSTICE “, & LETS GET TO THE TRUTH, COME ON YOU PUBLIC FIGURES, COME CLEAN!! & ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR INFLICTING THIS HORRENDOUS INJUSTICE ON CAROL & HER FAMILY!!, TURN IT AROUND!!! GIVE CAROL & HER FAMILY JUSTICE!!

  32. jane Kilo says:

    Its appalling. Please continue to fight for justice and get a proper investigation. Go to your MP or to the Ombudsman. Sounds very sinister and dark and Dr Fisher should be brought to account. It sounds like she took the furnature from Carols flat to her own house in Plymouth using Carol’s car to transport everything down there…. I also sounds very sinister that Carol was about to move back to be near you and that after she made that decision, she made a phone call to Dr Fisher, who may have panicked hearing that news…and how did Dr Fisher know to alert an ambulance to Carols flat when she was 200 miles away? I hope you will be able to do something so that you can finally get some peace of mind. Have you approached the newspapers to highlight this tragic story to the world?

  33. Nathan Garside says:

    Reading this story for the first time I can understand your need to bring these events into the public domain. There is clearly a need for an independent investigation and your mis-givings really can not be understated.

    You must not give up in your pursuit of the truth which I hope will allow your family to find peace of mind and justice for Carol.

  34. Jacqueline morris says:

    I hope that justice is done and am utterly shocked at what aunty Joan, uncle Joe and all of you have gone through it is appalling.
    My thoughts are with all of you.

    jacqueline

  35. VA says:

    I am so sorry to hear about this tragic death and your family’s struggle for justice. Back in the 1990s, my family went through a similar sort of abusive therapy situation (although no one died, thankfully). I am continually appalled by the lack of ethics and responsibility shown by recovered memory therapists. This whole psychiatric school is shameful and evil and needs to be eliminated.

  36. Mike says:

    I just stumbled across your website and was shocked and saddened by what i have read. I was in a psych ward with Carol for a while in Sutton, she seemed really nice and was friendly to everyone. I hope that she has finally found peace and that you find the justice you seek.

  37. Roderick Macleod says:

    It is difficult not to interpret the official prevarication and obfuscation surrounding what happened to Carol as an attempted cover-up, and a defensive closing of ranks by the various professionals involved. There really does seem to be an outstanding case for independent investigation of all the circumstances surrounding Carol’s treatment and Dr Fleur Fisher’s subsequent actions.

  38. Mr. A says:

    I read with interest the article about your case in Private Eye 1302 and have a great deal of sympathy with what you have suffered.

    I spent several years investigating the child protection and abuse counseling network of the late 1980s and 1990s, having had personal experience of the damage its outdated ideas can cause.

    At that time, the Tavistock Clinic was the hub of a relatively close knit group of doctors, psychiatrists and therapists who credited themselves with coining a range of abuse-related disorders, along with in-house treatments for them. I am speaking not only of Satanic Ritual Abuse, but also of Munchausen’s Syndrome By Proxy, Reflex Anal Dilation and many others based on dubious science.

    Having been early ‘pioneers’ the Tavistock clinicians grew their ideas into something of an industry in the 1990s, with many of them rising to considerable prominence, some even entering government.

    You mention Sinason, Fisher and Hale in connection with your case. There were many others; I would add Judith Trowell, Arnon Bentovim and Jenny Gray who may be familiar to other victims of wrongful abuse diagnosis.

    As far as induced-illness syndrome goes, Dr. David Southall and Prof. Roy Meadow were also regarded as highly influential, the latter being particularly close with Tavistock staff.

    I link to a compressed folder containing various web pages I have collated which may be of interest. All the information contained within is already in the public domain:

    http://www.mediafire.com/?rf4bue2o5kcfp1c

    For those looking to send Freedom of Information or Data Protection Act requests to the Tavistock for copies of their own records, follow these steps:

    The clinic now comes under the remit of the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust.

    The correct contact to apply to is Ms. Pat Key. As was explained to me:

    If you have a request to view or obtain copies of records relating to your own treatment at the Tavistock and Portman, the procedure is to write formally to:

    Ms. Pat Key
    Director of Corporate Governance and Facilities
    Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust
    Tavistock Centre
    120 Belsize Lane
    London NW3 5BA

    Please provide as much detail as possible, as well as proof of identity. Date of birth is always helpful, in case of similar names.

    Records are destroyed 20 years after the last contact, in accordance with national guidance.

    Please note the final paragraph; if requesting records it is important to act quickly.

    Good luck with your search for answers.

  39. Graham and Nicola says:

    We came across your story in Private Eye; we will pray for your family.
    If there is anything that we can do to help, please let us know.

    Graham and Nicola Veale

  40. Mr. A says:

    As a P.S, I would concur that the circumstances of Carol’s death warrant further investigation.

    Forensic experts, including those specialising in human identification and DNA fingerprinting, are listed in directories available at your local library, or on sites such as:

    http://www.expertwitness.co.uk/

    http://www.academy-experts.org

    http://www.jspubs.com/

    Many large Universities also offer forensic science facilities, if you are looking for independent expert advice.

    It is terrible that you have come this far without being able to obtain any satisfying answers.

    Kind regards,

    A

  41. dave prosser says:

    it is sickening how “professionals” protect each other dont let these people cover up such appaling behavior. keep at it . eventually through public opinion , the truth will out. best of luck

  42. i fully support your campaign
    i can understand why the disc. panel of the BMA would not find one of their number at fault but i wonder why the police are so reluctant to act.
    both of these organisation have as much credibilty as the press complaints commission.
    this story would be ideal as a investigative tv prog.
    i hope true justice is done

  43. Andrew Champion says:

    Thank you for sharing your story and I sincerely hope you achieve justice for Carol.
    I am a regular reader of Private Eye and that is how I discovered your family’s website.
    From illegal harvesting of childrens body parts in hospitals, to gagging of C.E.O’s of hospital trusts, Carol’s unjust and clearly illegal demise by Dr Fisher is a further example of how the ‘system’ operates with impunity.
    As you state in your writings, had Carol’s brother not written to her shortly before her death you may never have known..ever..that Carol had died. This fact raises the unpleasant question regarding how widespread Dr. Fisher’s ‘practice’ is, and how many of the U.K’s reported ‘missing’ may be attributed to her/her clandestine colleagues ‘workings’?
    Power over mind has so many benefits to both individuals, and nations. Worryingly the extent of ‘establishment’ cover-up to permit Dr Fisher to remain at large and in practice lends itself to the theory that her ‘work’ may be state-sponsored. By finding out as much as you have, you have revealed an ice-cube chunk of potentially a substantial iceberg?
    I am a practicing qualified nurse, and a former emergency ambulanceman. I wish you well in your future endeavours. E mail me if I can be of any assistance.
    All best regards. Andrew.

  44. M Summerfield says:

    I came to your website after reading the article in PRIVATE EYE of 25 Nov 2011. What an awful situation, and the tape of Dr Fisher trying to insure herself on your daughters car is mind boggling.
    Good luck in your search for justice.

  45. Anon Ymous says:

    Private Eye directed me here too.

    As someone on the severe mental health register myself (schizophrenia) I’ve often wondered how some of the psychiatrists I’ve been under, while locked away for months in hospitals and subsequently as an outpatient, get away with their actions. There seems to be an institutionalised lack of human concern for patients which in some cases borers on contempt. Not that I’ve experienced anything on the scale of what’s described here, however; this is truly chilling.

    The Tavistock clinicians sound like textbook psychopaths, who in different circumstances would be locked up in Broadmoor (see Guardian journalist Jon Ronson’s excellent book “The Psychpath” test which postulates convincingly that a minority of society are incapable of feeling empathy and exist only to maipulate others). The possible involvement of the police in a cover-up (and Government members? This is alluded to) would be a further scandal that would raise many scary questions about the nature of the society we live in. As a possibility it does not seem remote given the evidence above.

    What motivates these people? Who are the real “satanists” here?? I’ll bookmark this page and check back regularly. Good luck with bringing the Tavistock witches to justice!

  46. Jatroa says:

    I was very sorry to hear about Carol and your struggles to piece together what had happened to her. I can commiserate, because Private Eye published details of how the NHS treated my dying father.

    I’m not a lawyer, but during my fight to get his records, I found out some things which may help you to get the remaining records.

    Medical Records are not supplied under the Freedom of Information Act. FOI requests cover the emails etc between NHS administrators and their very well-paid advisors who will try every trick and every means – legal (and in my own case – illegal)- to stop you reading the records. I think that the NHS employs external advisors as they can chose to provide advice ‘in confidence’ where internal advisors are subject to the FoI Act. This means you cannot get at the records.. but read on…

    The FOI route is to ask the NHS administrators to provide the records because the FOI Act has a public interest basis… are the people appointed by the Government carrying out their proper duties? Clearly they are not paid to cover up negligence, but they do.

    So continue to ask for up to date records from the NHS as these might throw up some new emails, notes etc which may refer to your case. There is a problem in that external legal bodies write a privacy disclaimer into their contracts which can get round the FoI Act. ie they will only provide advice to remain confidential. At the moment I am asking the FoI to consider that I cannot appeal against the NHS refusing to provide these records on the grounds that the NHS will only tell me that they exist and not who the the originators are. Therefore I have no chance of appealing for the totally secret W,X and Y documents which the health authority deem top secret. The ICO is currently looking into this under the Data Protection Act, as presumably I am mentioned in these documents. So I may eventually get them, despite the confidential ‘get out’ clause.

    Medical records are available to anyone who has a financial interest in the person’s estate under the Access to Health Records Act.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1990/23/contents.

    The problem is that if you are not financially dependent on the deceased (ie a wife, husband or or child), the records, which ‘belong’ to the Health Authority- are not automatically available. A son or daughter, who is in work, for instance has no legal right to ask for their parent’s medical records.

    This would seem to mean that you have no right to see your daughter’s records, as you were not financially supported by her.

    But they are avaialable to executors of wills. In my own case I was the sole executor but I was still refused access. After a struggle, and pointing out this Act, I eventually got them.

    The records are destroyed after two years if no one kicks up a fuss.

    But if there was anyone appointed to be executor of her estate – albeit a box of tissues – then this person has the right to ask to see the records. The NHS can argue that they don’t want you to see the records if you are ‘unstable’ and would be unduly upset to see them but I cannot see why an executor would be mentally unstable.

    My advice to anyone with a parent- or relation – going into hospital is to get a document signed by the patient stating that you have complete access to their medical records before and after death. and get it witnessed.

    Those without relatives can be abused with impunity by the NHS. But if they sign a document – even giving a friend or neighbour rights – then I think the NHS has to comply with their wishes.

    I hope that you succeed in you quest to get the remaining records but I’m sad to say that the more records I managed to get, the sadder and more angry I became. Because even if you can prove negligence, nothing is ever done.

  47. Dorothea Yong says:

    I attended a Dept of Health sponsored course for qualified teachers in 1990.After a discussion on the Butler Schloss Enquiry into the Middlesborough ‘ satanic abuse ‘case we were offered police advice leaflets on child abuse.’Mind you!’ opined the young PC, ‘Tha aal doon it!’(referring to the recently exonerated parents).A social worker aquaintance later explained to me that Marietta Higgs was doing a roaring trade in speaking engagements to police forces, justifying her “clinical investigations “.( Fleur Fisher’s mentor?)

  48. Simon says:

    Appalled by this deeply disturbing story…and the way the Establishment has closed ranks.Maybe now Private Eye has published,one or two of the broadsheets might be brave enough to follow suit. This case demands a public enquiry, have you thought about an e.petition?Really hope you get resolution. Don’t give up.

  49. Elle says:

    I came to here via the article posted on the Guardian website. I thought that the article was very good in its discussion. The validity of regressive memory therapy of the late 80s and 90s needs to be revisited by independent investigations all over the world.
    From what I read of Dr Sinason’s statement in the Guardian Online article, she’s the one that needs the help! “To the pure, all is pure” I hope the media attention results in justice for Carol and I’m sorry your family has had to fight for answers. Kia kaha – stay strong.

  50. caroline says:

    I would sign an e.petition on not just your late daughers behalf but for everyone in this country..I think its disgusting,criminal and either the doctor in question has mental health issues of her own and a cold bloodied criminal.

  51. bella says:

    This story is surreal but at the same time unsurprising and very frightening it conjures up conspiracy theories and state sponsored disappearances it means that the vulnerable are not in fact protected but rather even more vulnerable from those supposedly there to provide a safe haven.If Carol suffered schizophrenia then it is heartbraking to think how afraid she must have been of a world created by so called therapists.
    As a family I think that you have been incredibly brave and tenacious to uncover the evidence and to keep challenging those who have carved themselves positions of authority and who then behave with incredulous aarogance because of it, whose approach is neither open nor transparent as well as to highlight the unbelievable loop holes in the legal system that the players in this scenario have exploited beyond belief.

  52. Alan Evans says:

    Hi,

    What a disturbing story. And what an amazing job you have done at researching and discovering all these facts. My stepmother had paranoid schizophrenia back in the late 70s and 80s. What a terrible disease and a health professional took advantage of that. My stepmother committed suicide in 1986, or at least she was drunk behind the wheel. We will never know. Back then, there was little public understanding of the disease and she refused treatment. My father would not have her committed even when she attacked him with a knife. He ended up just leaving her and it was a tragic spiral downwards. In the early stages of her illness, she accused me (11 year old boy) of having sex with the dogs, of breaking things round the house, and the list goes on. My dad did nothing to help her.

    This so-called health professional, instead of giving in to her bizarre beliefs, could have got your daughter proper treatment.

    Good luck in the fight.

  53. fata morgana says:

    All my support goes to the family, I hope the support shown here and some advice can bring closure to this dreadful cover-up.
    I feel you will find a lot of these so called therapists have suffered incest themselves, go on to become therapists and project their own background of suppressed torment onto vunerable individuals, because they can.

    My only question here is who was Mr Partridge and was he a pillar of the community ?
    A lot of these so called therapists tend to be middle class puppets that the state can control because underneath they are highly dillusional individuals who are easily manipulated to do the states bidding of protecting certain sections of the community to allow them to operate freely and above the law.

  54. keelungchap says:

    Just read the piece in The Observer. What a horrible situation to be in, I have a deep cynicsm about ‘medical professionals’ who deal with anything but blood & bones.

    Good luck with your fight.

  55. sam mckeown says:

    Good luck in your search for justice.

  56. Claire says:

    I also got here via the article on the Guardian website.

    I’m shocked and appalled by the awful way you – and Carol – have been treated over all this. I know what it’s like to lose a loved one, but I can’t imagine how painful it must be to lose someone you care about under such awful circumstances – especially as the system should be there to support you as the bereaved family, not make things infinitely worse by lying and covering up the events surrounding Carol’s tragic death.

    I wish you the best of luck, and hope that you can keep fighting to get to the truth.

    Take care.

  57. Vanessa says:

    “Medical Justice Medics Training Day
    Saturday 16th April 2011

    3.45 – 4.45 (this session runs in parallel with the PTSD session)
    Medical Ethics
    Dr Fleur Fisher, retired GP”

    http://www.medicaljustice.org.uk/training/for-medics/1711-medical-justice-medics-training-day-160411.html

    Looks like Dr Fisher’s still doing the rounds but she seems to be keeping quiet about her illustrious previous positions now and the course is free so looks like the work offers are drying up!

    I think the system is full of the likes of Dr Fisher and that is why it’s so hard to bring them to justice – I hope you continue with your campaign though as people like this woman cannot be allowed to flout the law in such a disgusting manner. Any organsiation that gives this woman a place on their board or speaking engagements should be ashamed of themselves.

    As a person who has had considerable experience of mental health ‘professionals’ myself, it is my sincere belief that they are the direct cause of a substantial number of deaths and suicides – far more than people realise. Note how many people kill themselves just after coming out of inpatient care – a worryingly high number. Friends, family, self-help from books and keeping yourself occupied are the best method of getting over mental health problems; you are playing Russian roulette allowing the mental health system any form of input into your life as this woman has ably demonstrated!

  58. S McTaggart says:

    I read your story today in the Observer. I am deeply sorry about Carol and the current situation your family is in. Even more, I am sorry too to read about the so called professionals that disrepute services which help those with mental illness or suffering anytype of mental distress.

    Your and Carol’s story tell us of the cautions that we must have with any sort of health trade -even the medical orthodox one. Do we question where the Drs. we see graduated from, are they GMC registered, do we seek second medical opinions? Why we do not feel empowered to do so?

    There were many other questions that came to my mind specific to your case. Where the therapists that saw Carol awarded by professional bodies and associations? Where they get their therapy -and which sort of therapy training? and questions carry on when I think why Carol wasn’t reffered in the first instance by any of the therapist that saw her in the early stages of her illness to NHS mainstream services?

    I believe all the people that have a health care responsibility is obliged to the duty to ensure that all aspects of the health of the patient have been accounted for, this is the duty of care!

    How is it possible that no-one of the therapists questioned a mental illness that could require medication specially if the person was in danger to commit harm to herself or others? Or to report for investigation her story of sexual abuse and child abuse? As blond and painful that any of these allegations are, the therapist should have reported so as any one professionally trained would have if a child came to their practice and reported so.

    I am astonished some of the therapist your sister encounter holded positions with Medical associations. I can’t believe the disrepute they bring to recognised professions as I stated before, that in so many cases do help people but not in isolation but as part of a team of health care professionals that look-out for the best interest of the patient and their mental health and ensure there is a network of family and friends or at least voluntary groups to aid them in the day-to-day situations.

    I can only but hope there is a full enquiry into the circumstances that surrounded Carol’s death and that this can be an opportunity to further investigate the services that usually are provided when taking care of mentally ill people. The lack of coordination and communication among some of the professionals that deal with people in mental distress . The whole “myths” and absurd ignorance we still have about mental disorders just shows how little we have really advanced in promoting and ensuring better services than the ones we currently see as cruel and obsolete when the mental ayslums existed. It just seems some of the alternatives provided then have moved on to “lovely” and “calming” offices in high street holdings.

    I wonder what is the reaction of NGOs such as MIND, and if they will be able to help with your case.

    I wish you all the best in your search.

  59. DAVID SHAW says:

    This is an outrage in the extreme, and to think in the 21st century the crank and lunatic beliefs of those who invent such folly are still proliferating among a foolish and gullible group of so called ‘ professionals’ who take the words of gurus and teachers of the most insane and dangerous kind as gospel and then create situations such as the one we are presented with here.
    I am sure the mental health issues did not exist prior to the false memory syndrome practitioners getting their sick and twisted hands onto this poor woman, and in a field as complex as mental health the introduction of regulation of a very strong kind to enable the likes of those mentioned to simply NOT be able to get their hands on one vulnerable person let alone many.
    But as shown this perverse set of beliefs has indeed infiltrated and could still be causing untold harm and damage to those who fall into its hands, i know this type of thing to be a favorite among the extreme wing of the christian church, who following on from the ‘michelle remembers ‘ farce in the USA, are quick to use these truly evil methods to create entire past histories that are purely fantasy and have no connection to reality whatsoever.
    But what is their motive as a previous poster mentioned, i only wish we knew, and i only wish they could be prosecuted , not only for malpractice but for causing real and lasting harm to those who did not deserve that which was forced upon them.
    There is a real case for outlawing the use of this type of charlatan methods by those who administer the guidance for mental health practice in this country and i feel it is something that should be done, and quickly, to prevent this ever becoming a major issue again, as it tends to rear its ugly head on a regular basis when its delusions are fed by the sick and the vulnerable are destroyed by its malignant power in their lives.
    Those who practice such things are cranks and dangerous at that, and this case should be treated as a real abuse of power and presents a case where the real danger of such a thing can be seen for what it really is.

    • dave smethurst says:

      The motives are actually easy to understand. we live in a world in which politicians are determined to impose every kind of abnormality upon us in an attempt to de-normalise the family unit. This unit represents strength and resistance to the tyrany of corrupt government protecting vested interest.
      The creation of this social atmosphere has led to the proliferation of pseudo-professionals who are addicted to abnormalty as they have no function in a decent society where family values, honest ambition and genuine empathy fr those less fortunate than ourselves are now despised.

  60. T. Blackburn says:

    I read the article on the case in the Observer magazine (11.12.11) and only feel the strongest sympathy. My luck for the future.

  61. Rob Cornelius says:

    I read your story in the Observber today. All I can say is I have every sympathy for you and your family and I hope you can one day obtain the justice you richly deserve.

  62. Lyn Smith says:

    I read the Guardian story and followed the link to your website. Keep up the questions and good luck in sorting out this very stressful and painful situation for your family.

  63. Helen Jones says:

    I have read the Guardian article and now the family’s web site. It is almost difficult to believe that such things can happen and so publically. I think people who have been affected by the wrongs done here might like to contact any organisation that that so called medical “professional” still has any connection with. There cannot be any normal person reading here who considers what this dr did as being ethical. It is a great shame that the GMC doesn’t take the same kind of punitive action that the all powerful GTC does against teachers !

    I wonder whether anyone has tried to obain any cctv footage of the relevant areas of the south west where Carole’s car was obviously parked up or used during the weeks before it was finally crushed? This would refute the strange point of the family supposedly having taken possession of it.

    The suggestion of an e -petition is a good one as it would be good to follow up the renewed public interest in this case and to continue the momentum of awareness of the case. Has the family’s MP been activated to pursue matters on their behalf? A pro active forum on the internet to inform people and give notification of how the public can help would also be good.

    It is upsetting to think of people who have probably been highly paid and who most likely continue to be so, held in regard as “professionals”, getting away with actions that when outlined like this beggar belief.

    I hope the public’s response help the family to continue with their cause.

  64. Tim says:

    I’ve just read the article in the Guardian about Carole. I knew her from Uni days and didn’t know she had such issues in her life. I’m really shocked that such things can still happen in this day and age. Such quack doctors give all the others a bad name. How in the hell can this Fisher women sleep at night with what she tried to get away with. I hope her conscience and ETHICS prick her to tell the truth from now on. Shame on her.

  65. Paul Callan says:

    Though vaguely aware of Carol’s tragic death through updates in Private Eye, I have only now become familiar with details of her horrific treatment at the hands of the psychiatric establishment. Is anybody being held to account for this tragedy? Is there any (even internal) investigation ongoing?
    While there is an obvious call for greater scrutiny and tighter vetting of those who profess to be ‘experts’ in this area, it is more dismaying that those who bear clear responsibilty for Ms Felstead’s mental deterioration remain free to promulgate unfounded and dangerous mumbo-jumbo dressed up as profound insight.
    My sincere sympathies go to the family of Ms Felstead. While it is impossible to imagine the pain caused by the loss of a beloved daughter and sister, I hope that the success of your campaign will bring about some measure of comfort as you remember Carol.

  66. Lisa Blakemore-Brown says:

    Kevin, David and family, you know how appalled I am about what happened to Carol. On hearing about it and meeting you I immediately contacted the GMC and put in a complaint. They rapidly dismissed it saying they had dealt with the issues in your complaint. Now that there is greater public interest in your case I think they may like to see what the GMC had to say when I pursued the complaint on the basis of the “therapy” this charlatan Fleur Fisher used on Carol. I’ll find it and post it later.

    Reading the Observer article helped to put the last 20 years of Carol’s life without her family into some sort of context, and a horrific one it was.

    Both Valerie Sinason and Fleur Fisher are frightening characters, both it seems with memory problems of their own – despite solid evidence neither could recall giving therapy to Carol when they did – and the frankly hysterical Fleur Fisher couldn’t even recall being a therapist! Yet these people happily whipped up false memories in Carol’s mind and clearly drove her to the mental illness which plagued her life after meeting them – not before it as you know and as some who have posted on here clearly know. And they call this helping people recover from abuse.

    I am also interested in “Disgusted Doctor”‘s post. The article he linked to was written in 1998 when the Labour Government had been in a for a year, and Paul Boeteng was a powerful man with integrity. I know this because I wrote an article on Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy in The Therapist which was published in June 1998 and Paul Boeteng asked for a copy of it. He was totally in agreement with it and in speeches he gave at the time he referred to the “wrong headedness” of social workers in issues of this nature.

    Not long after that he was posted abroad to a fabulous position. That was the end of Mr Boeteng challenging MSBP or False Memory Syndrome. There was an All Party Parliamentary conference dealing with both of these extraordinary phenomena at which I spoke. From where I stand, and at odds with what was written in this BBC article in 1998 – the Government did the opposite to what they should have done. They protected medics and therapists who wrongly accused people of MSBP and FMS and shielded the latter them from complaints by making sure they didn’t have to be regulated. This continues.

    In my mind the Labour Government were profoundly wrong in what they did and they have created a medieval sub-culture from which there is no escape for its victims – unless they die.

    The mad rantings of people like Valerie Sinason and the pathetic denialism of Fleur Fisher and others like them, and the horrific effects of their so called therapy surely cannot be tolerated any longer.

  67. Joe Griffin says:

    I am utterly appalled by this story. I do hope you get some resolution. Can your MP not help? Perhaps now is a good time in view of all of the publicity. Sometimes an opposition MP is more helpful as they are not trying to support the status quo.

    Good luck

  68. kim levy says:

    I writing in response to the article in the Guardian. I was horrified when I read this story. I can only hope you find a law company which is willing to take this case as far as it can go. It appears from this story that Dr Fisher was so competent at taking charge of another persons possessions, and then attempting to get rid of the body, that she may well have had previous experience. I wonder is it possible that other patients, believing themselves to be alone in the world, have quite legally made Dr Fisher the beneficiary of their wills. Maybe Carole committed suicide unexpectedly, before she wrote a will. Maybe the police should check into that side of things – see how many times Dr Fisher has been named a beneficiary. If she’s still practicing it seems reasonable to consider her a possible danger to the public until it can be proven otherwise. The police have a responsibility do deal with this case for the public good.

    With regard to physchology in general, I believe that phychologists frequently do more harm than good. Fortunatly my own experience of them is limited. After the birth of one of my children, nearly twenty years ago, I suffered severe pain which continued for several months. I went from one gynachologist to another (six in all) in the hope that one of them would discover what the problem was, and treat it. I had answers that ranged from, ‘youre just lazy and spoiled’, to ‘all women have these pains after giving birth – get on with it like everyone else’, and of course, ‘you’re imagining it.’ Half convinced that the pain was imaginary, I eventually went to a phychologist. At first I thought her diagnosis was rubbish, but after four visits (by this time I’d been unable to work for so long I couldn’t afford any more visits) I was just starting to believe that maybe she was right. By now my baby was 7 months old and I still couldn’t stand up for more than a few minutes without experiencing excruciating pain. Then my father passed away and I had to fly to England for the funeral. While I was in England I took the opportunity to visit my old GP. He’d known me since childhood and knew that I wasn’t lazy, or spoiled and had certainly NEVER been sexually abused. He checked me out for about thirty seconds, told me the birth had clearly been handled very badly, and I was still suffereing from torn muscles amongst other things. Very simple treatment put the matter right within two weeks and I then went back to work.

    How about this one: A girl in my son’s class pushed his head into the desk as a joke. Something similar had happened to him two years previously and resulted in three broken teeth, two of which required root canal treatment, therefore he over reacted and twisted the girls hand, spraining her wrist. When he realised how much he’d hurt her, and that his own teeth were still intact, he was shocked and couldn’t apologise enough. At the teachers suggestion I also phoned thegirls mother to apologise and assure her I’d talk to my son an make sure it didn’t happen again. I didn’t know what reaction to expect, either ‘thanks for calling, she’ll be ok’ or ‘What sort of parent are you to have produced a son like that’. Either would have been legitimate under the circumstances. I wasn’t prepared for the reaction I got which was, ‘ I have no proof that the attack was sexual, therefore I can’t go to the police…..’ Neither the teacher, who saw the incident, or the girl involved suggested it was sexual. Only the girls mother who turns out, surprise surprise, to be a phychologist. I rest my case. By the way, my son is 12, small for his age (he looks about 10) and shows no sign of reaching puberty any time soon! What sort of sick person would class this incident as ‘sexual’?

  69. Maria says:

    this is incredibly sad. my heart goes out to the family. i hope that they are able to get some answers and some legal recourse so that their daughter has justice. this doctor really seems to have crossed some serious ethical boundaries.

  70. Richard England says:

    The GMC (General Medical Council) have always had a ‘soft spot’ for proactitioners who believe in satanic ritual abuse. Although they try to present a ‘modern’ look-and-feel, some in the GMC are still wedded to medieval concepts and beliefs, typified by the unwillingness to drop the MSBP moniker so well exposed by Lisa Blakemore-Brown.

    The failure to investigate Fleur Fisher’s part in all of this isn’t inexplicable; the GMC has been riddled with ‘True Believers’ in satanic ritual abuse before and still. Even when there is ample evidence to pursue an investigation, they delclined without so much as a cough. The same with the Metropolitan Police, who continue to obsess about satanic ritual abuse, twenty years after it was realised to be bunkem.

    Valerie Sinason’s crazed meanderings in The Observer article typified the nature of these therapists; you can find them everywhere and they all equally loopy.

    The Health Secretary Andrew Lansley if he wants to, has an easy target to take on-instigate a root-and-branch review and reform of the GMC and BMA (who Fleur Fisher was Head of Ethics for) and clear-out the vestiges of their medieval past once-and-for-all, using the Carol Felstead scandal as an excuse. In the meantime he can get an easy win for the Coalition by enacting a public enquiry in the British psychotherapy industry, which has harboured and encouraged the likes of Valerie Sinason and her cohorts to prey upon vulnerable young women like Carol and the NHS budget for nearly two decades.

    Otherwise stories like Carol’s will keep coming out, and the question for the government will be ‘what have you done about it’? It is obvious that the likes of the GMC, BMA and Metropolitan Police cannot be trusted to deal with such matters – as they are riddled with those who have a vested interest in continuing the current shambles.

  71. Pen says:

    I too knew Carole from living with her in a TC for several months and have only just learned of her passing – which is clearly needlessly tragic. My heart goes out to all her family, but please don’t lose sight of her true character. I saw Carole blossom into a confident young woman during my time with her. I can totally endorse the family’s memories of her being a caring, humorous and warm woman, whose enduring memory for me will be her capacity to laugh which was contagious to others. I hope you can continue to keep this in your minds and hearts whilst campaigning for justice on her behalf.

    • Naomi says:

      Hello Pen

      I am a development producer a currently researching into this story and would be very interested in speaking with you about your meeting with Carol. I am trying to get a sense of who she was before this terrible situation occurred.

      kindest

      Naomi

  72. Amy says:

    Read the story on the Guardian and I am very sorry to hear. Hopefully the truth about Dr Fisher will be found out and made public.

  73. sam says:

    How can Dr Fisher have been counselling Carol when she has no relevant qualifications?

  74. Lisa Blakemore-Brown says:

    Email from the GMC after I made a complaint about the the treatment given to Carol by Fleur Fisher (quite apart from being referred on to Valerie Sinason and others):

    RE: Felstead case
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    Hide Details FROM:Ian Howell (020 7189 5166) TO:LISA BLAKEMORE Message flagged Friday, 10 June 2011, 13:28Message BodyDear Ms Blakemore-Brown,

    I can confirm that I had read your email of 14 April 2011 when we spoke.

    There is nothing in the papers provided by the Police which was based on the Felstead family complaint to them to suggest that Dr Fisher was Carol’s therapist or that they were engaged in a conventional doctor-patient relationship.

    I have re-read your email of 14 April 2011 to the GMC. It is not clear to me that in the email that you were suggesting that Dr Fisher and Carol had a conventional doctor-patient relationship as we would understand it or that Dr Fisher abused Carol during the course of therapy. We therefore did not regard your email as making a new complaint or raising new allegations.

    When we receive complaints about doctors our case examiners have to decide if there is a realistic prospect of our being able to prove the allegations to the required standard at a fitness to practise panel.

    Where the allegations are serious (such as where abuse is being alleged) the evidence has to be clear and compelling. Such evidence would usually take the form of medical records, witness statements or the reports of medical experts.

    It remains open to you or the Felstead family to make a further complaint about Dr Fisher raising new allegations and indicating where the GMC might find evidence to support those allegations. I’m sorry if you feel you have done that already but as I have said that is not clear to me from your email of 14 April 2011.

    Please note that our statutory powers bar us from considering allegations relating to events which took place over five years ago in all but the most exceptional circumstances.

    Yours sincerely

    Ian Howell
    Investigation Officer

    —–Original Message—–
    From: LISA BLAKEMORE [mailto:blakemore.lisa@btinternet.com]
    Sent: 10 June 2011 09:42
    To: Ian Howell (020 7189 5166)
    Subject: Felstead case

    Dear Mr Howell

    Thanks for the conversation on this case the other day. I admit to being shocked that you didn’t realise that Carol had been in therapy with Dr Fisher, as well as being “a friend” but I can see how that happened from the first family complaint, when their focus was on the illegal attempts to cremate, the manipulative and dishonest insurance call etc. However, my complaint separated the issues and one those issues was absolutely to do with the type of therapy being undertaken and the impact on Carol.

    Therefore, when you rejected my complaint by saying that you had dealt with the issues via the family’s complaint, and you would not revisit the same issues, I am now thinking that you couldn’t have properly read what I sent in.

    Can you clarify ?

    Sincerely

    Lisa Blakemore-Brown

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  75. Lisa Blakemore-Brown says:

    Email from the GMC a few days after the one I just posted:

    Re: My email of 10 June 2011
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    Hide Details FROM:Ian Howell (020 7189 5166) TO:LISA BLAKEMORE Message flagged Monday, 13 June 2011, 15:58Message BodyDear Ms Blakemore,

    I am writing further to my email sent last Friday regarding the Felstead family and Dr Fleur Fisher.

    It has been pointed out to me that my email contained an error in that I incorrectly stated that Dr Fisher and Carol Myers (Felstead) never had a conventional doctor-patient relationship.

    The information the Police gave us did in fact suggest that Dr Fisher provided medical care to Carol in 1985/1986 for a short time before passing her care on to others.

    This information did not contain criticism of the care Dr Fisher provided to Carol and so no such allegation was considered by the case examiners.

    I am sorry for making this error in my previous email.

    Yours sincerely

    Ian Howell

    Investigation Officer

    Standards & Fitness to Practise Directorate

    Direct Line: 020 7189 5166

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    Address for correspondence: 3 Hardman St , Manchester M3 3AW .

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  76. Lisa Blakemore-Brown says:

    My complaint to the GMC on 14th April 2011 after hearing about Carol’s case at the BFMS. See my previous posts on the GMC comments about this complaint:

    Official Complaint against Dr Linda Fleur Fisher (GMC REFERENCE NUMBER: 1582097)
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    Hide Details FROM:LISA BLAKEMORE TO:practise@gmc-uk.org gmcftp@gmc-uk.org Message flagged Thursday, 14 April 2011, 13:18Message Body I have recently been made aware of shocking unprofessional behaviour which crosses into criminal behaviour by a medic, Dr Linda Fleur Fisher and consider that I have a duty, as another professional, to make a serious complaint about her with regard to :

    1. Her 20 year “treatment” of Carol Felstead using “Recovered Memory” techniques.

    From discussions with the family and reading documents, from the time of her involvement with Dr Fisher, Carol was soon alienated from her family, her name changed and so disturbed she had to be sectioned, and spent the next twenty years on medication, in psychiatric facilities and in therapy which encouraged her to think she had been horrifically abused throughout her childhood. Dr Fisher pursued her belief of Recovered Memory and Satanic Ritual Abuse, involving others such as Dr Valerie Sinason, “recovering” memories of it with not a shred of real evidence. In fact the opposite seems to have been the case. The first 20 years of medical records mysteriously went missing. School and medical records produced by Carol’s family proved she was a normally developing child with a normal home life, and of course this would have not fitted with the false story about Satanic Ritual Abuse, mutism to the age of five and many other startling claims. Various false references to abuse included: reference to Carol’s mother having killed her sister and then sat Carol on top of her body and set fire to the house to kill her too; an apparent satanic abuse trial of the family and two Conservative Cabinet members, all of which provably untrue, appear to have not only been encouraged by Dr Fisher, but built upon by being retold over many years to Carol in therapy and by other professionals – presumably brought in by Dr Fisher – who continued in the same vein. The GMC needs to establish what Carol had to endure throughout the years she was involved with these people. Carol’s sister died in hospital of a proven medical condition before Carol was even born. Any professional working with a patient should access their medical notes and family history. Had this been done the truth could have been discovered very easily. This is a serious omission and failure to undertake checks and balances before embarking on a dogmatic approach within a highly controversial form of “therapy”. There appears to be no evidence that Dr Fisher sought out proof of some extremely serious abuse claims. On the contrary, it would appear that Dr Fisher held back medical records which disproved it, or at the very least ignored the content; failed to make any contact with her family over 20 years of involvement with Carol, actually claiming she had no family, which she knew to be untrue, until she was seemingly legally obliged to provide information to a Coroner the day before she attempted to arrange a cremation for Carol without telling them. To the end of Carol’s life and beyond Dr Fisher made claims to authority figures that Carol had suffered terrible abuse during her life, even to a clerk in an insurance company, and that she was her next of kin.

    2. Her actions around the time of Carol’s untimely death, well set out in the complaint to the GMC (below) by the family.

    The tape recording of Dr Fisher’s call to the insurance company beggars belief and is a gross abuse of her position as a Dr. She clearly manipulated the clerk on the telephone so she could take away the car belonging to Carol in order to then drive to her flat to take her possessions. She made false claims about the Housing Association which was used to justify the need for urgent action to remove Carol’s possessions. What did she say to the Housing Association to justify taking them? She made reference to abuse in that phone call and it would appear she has told any form of authority about this “abuse” as it is written in various records and no doubt influenced their thinking. She claimed to be Carol’s next of kin and to be the Executor of her estate. Her chatty style with the clerk as she sought to get her name on this dead woman’s car insurance left me feeling most disturbed.

    3. The extraordinary provable lies Dr Fisher told to Police and many others in authority, including that there had been a trial for the Satanic Abuse.

    This cannot be blamed on Carol as these claims were “recovered” in “therapy” and perhaps under hypnosis, maybe even using sodium amytal. All of this needs to be established by a Hearing against Dr Fisher.

    Lisa Blakemore-Brown
    Psychologist

    ——————————————————————————–
    Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:29:24 +0000
    Subject: Fwd: Official Complaint against Dr Linda Fleur Fisher (GMC REFERENCE NUMBER: 1582097)
    From: enquiry@justiceforcarol.com
    To: kevinfelstead@hotmail.co.uk

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    From: GMC Fitness to Practise
    Date: Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:18 AM
    Subject: RE: Official Complaint against Dr Linda Fleur Fisher (GMC REFERENCE NUMBER: 1582097)
    To: Justice For Carol

    Dear Mr Felstead

    I can confirm that we have received your email of 11 March 2011.

    The information that you have provided is currently being considered by our Assistant Registrars. We will be in contact once they have made a decision.

    Yours sincerely

    GMC Fitness to Practise
    Standards & Fitness to Practise Directorate
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    FTP Mailbox: practise@gmc-uk.org

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    From: Justice For Carol [mailto:enquiry@justiceforcarol.com]
    Sent: 11 March 2011 14:06
    To: GMC Fitness to Practise

    Subject: Official Complaint against Dr Linda Fleur Fisher (GMC REFERENCE NUMBER: 1582097)

    General Medical Council Fitness to Practise Directorate

    3 Hardman Street
    Manchester
    M3 3AW

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    11 March 2011

    This is an official complaint. I want the General Medical Council to conduct an investigation into DR LINDA FLEUR FISHER, THE EX-HEAD OF ETHICS AT THE BRITISH MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (GMC REFERENCE NUMBER: 1582097), in relation to her activities succeeding my daughter’s death.

    My beloved daughter, Carole Myers (formerly known as Carol Felstead), a vulnerable and mentally ill adult, was found dead in her flat at 17a Swanage Road, Wandsworth, London, SW18 2DZ on the 29th June 2005 at about 3:30pm. The cause of death was indeterminable. My family was not notified by the Coroner’s Office of Carol’s death until 14 July 2005. This delay was deliberately caused by Dr Fisher falsely stating to the Police and the Coroner that she was Carol’s next of kin and that there was no family to contact. We were only notified of Carol’s death because a letter from Carol’s brother Richard was found at Carol’s flat and handed into the coroner, which was one day before Carol was due to be cremated.

    In the meantime, Dr Fisher had arranged a cremation for my daughter. The cremation (which was completely illegal) was arranged for 15 July – one day after my family were informed of Carol’s death. The cremation was stopped by my family less than 24 hours before it was due to take place, and Carol was given a family burial in Stockport.

    Because my family were not informed about Carol’s death until two weeks after she had died, we did not see her before she was buried (her body was placed in a sealed coffin) and we were not present or represented at her post-mortem. Nor were we allowed to attend the pre-inquest into her death because we were not even aware that she had died at the time it took place. No member of our family has ever identified Carol.

    At the time of Carol’s death, Dr Fisher told the Metropolitan Police, Battersea Coroner’s Office and Servite Housing Association that she was Carol’s next of kin and executor. She was accepted on her word and was not asked to provide any evidence to support these preposterous claims. My family have legally obtained (using the Freedom of Information Act) copies of my daughter’s medical records, which prove that Dr Fisher has known of the existence of Carol’s family since 1985.

    JUSTICE FOR CAROL WEBSITE

    My family has created a website http://www.justiceforcarol.com. This website has been specifically created to draw public attention to the behaviour of Dr Fisher following the death of Carol.

    On the website is a recording made by Dr Fisher to Diamond Insurance Company on the 7th July 2005. Dr Fisher is making the telephone call from Carol’s flat – eight days after Carol had died.

    My family obtained, lawfully, a copy of this recording in may 2010 and as a result we are now fully cognisant of the behaviour of Dr Fisher following my daughter’s death.

    In the recording Dr Fisher can be heard in her own words, confirming that she has been aware that Carol had a family for many years. Dr Fisher can be heard obtaining car insurance by deception by acting as the executor of Carol’s estate.

    Dr Fisher states that she is removing all of Carol’s possessions from her flat. Dr Fisher also took out insurance on my daughter’s car, so that she could drive the car to her home in Plymouth.

    Dr Fisher also claims in this taped recording that she is Carol’s unofficial mother. This statement is absolutely ridiculous. No one in our family had even heard of Dr Fisher before Carol’s death. Dr Fisher is the ex-Head of ethics of the British Medical Association. She is also a professional ethicist who delivers lectures and workshops on maintaining ethical boundaries between Doctors and Patients Her conduct is an absolute disgrace. How ethical was this relationship?

    It is important to note, when listening to this recording, that Carol has been dead for eight days. it is a further seven days before our family were informed of carol’s death. Dr Fisher is making this telephone call in the certain knowledge that our family have not been informed that Carol is dead.
    Carol died on the 29th June 2005. our family were not notified of Carol’s death until the 14th July 2005.

    Please note that the website has attracted considerable interest and the disgraceful behaviour of Dr Fisher is developing into a national scandal. MY FAMILY ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED THAT DR FISHER HAS ARRANGED OTHER ILLEGAL CREMATIONS FOR VULNERABLE AND MENTALLY ILL WOMEN.

    Here is the link to our site: http://www.justiceforcarol.com

    Here is a link to the recording made by Dr Fisher to Diamond Insurance Company on the 7th July 2005 at 12:45pm: http://justiceforcarol.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/phonerecording.mp3

    Evidence that Dr Fisher did not have any legal right to represent Carol in any Capacity
    All of these documents can be viewed online at our website: http://www.justiceforcarol.com

    Letters of Administration from the High Court of Justice
    The Letters of Administration grant Carol’s father the legal right to deal with Carol’s affairs and possessions. Such rights exist in association with those inherent in being the father of the deceased. Since this is a printed copy it does not bear the Court Seal. We do have the original copy with the embossed seal.
    http://justiceforcarol.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Letters_of_Administrationredacted.gif

    Probate Registry Search
    Our family instigated a search with the Probate Registry. This letter states that Carol did not make a will and therefore did not bequeath her possessions to anyone. Probate Law then applies, with the possessions falling to the direct members of the deceased’s family.
    http://justiceforcarol.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Probate_Registryredacted.gif

    Certificate of Search from the Public Guardianship Office on behalf of the Court of Protection
    The Court of Protection exists to administer the affairs and estates of those permanently or temporarily mentally incapacitated. The search was made to establish whether Carol legally provided Dr Fisher or any other person with Enduring Powers of Attorney. None were ever assigned during Carol’s life or after it. Carol was registered as mentally disabled; therefore all powers of Attorney and Receivership could only be invested by the Court of Protection.
    http://justiceforcarol.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Public_Guardianship_Certificate_16May2006redacted.gif

    Reply from the Public Guardianship Office on behalf of the Court of Protection
    After enquiring whether Powers of Receivership or of Enduring Powers of Attorney have been granted by the Court of Protection to anyone before or after Carol’s death, the Public Guardianship Office searched their records and concluded no application had ever been made. Carol did not legally appoint anyone to administer her affairs.
    http://justiceforcarol.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Public_Guardianship_Office_Confirmation.gif

    Letter from Wandsworth Council confirming Non-Existence of Carer
    Carol did not register herself as having a Carer with Wandsworth Council. She also specifically wrote to them stating that she did not have a Carer. We have copies of this statement written in Carol’s own handwriting.
    http://justiceforcarol.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Wandsworth_Council_No_Carerredacted.gif

    Rules of Intestacy
    This is an Authoritative diagram from TaxationWeb (www.taxationweb.co.uk) demonstrating the rules of intestacy in a simple and easy to understand manner. According to the Rules of Intestacy, Dr Fisher was not legally entitled to dispose of Carol’s possessions at any time.
    http://justiceforcarol.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Rulesofintestacy.gif

    The criminal offences committed by Dr Fleur Fisher in relation to Carol’s death

    Illegal Cremation

    Dr Fleur Fisher illegally attempted to cremate my daughter, without informing my family, whilst being fully aware of our existence, that is a criminal act and I want her striking off the register for it. The Cremation was booked for 3pm on 15 July 2005 at Lambeth Crematorium.

    The Crematorium Manager was **********************. His contact details are:

    ********************
    Crematorium Manager
    Lambeth Crematorium and Lambeth Cemetery
    Blackshaw Road
    Tooting, London,
    SW17 0BY

    Tel: 020 8672 6342
    Fax: 020 8682 2368
    Email: ibeeson@lambeth.gov.uk

    The Funeral Director who was to be used was Mr Wilby, the Undertakers name was Eversheds. Eversheds address is:

    Mr Wilby
    Undertaker
    Eversheds
    120 High Street
    Wandsworth
    London
    SW18
    Telephone: 0208 874 1781.

    Falsely filling in details on cremation forms (or knowingly allowing the Coroner to do so) is perverting the course of justice and is also a criminal offence under the Cremation Act. Cremation forms are very specific – if someone other than the family is arranging the cremation, it has to be stated why the family are not arranging the cremation.
    The following are quotes from a standard cremation form, as in use today. It is Cremation Form 1 and replaces Cremation Form A, however the questions below have been common to cremation forms for many years.

    Part 4 The application
    1. Are you a near relative or an executor of the person who has died?

    Near relative means the widow, widower or surviving civil partner of the person who has died, or a parent or child of the person who has died, or any other relative usually residing with the person who has died.

    If no, please give the nature of your relationship and explain why you are making the application rather than a near relative or an executor.

    2. Is there any near relative(s) or executor(s) who has not been informed of the proposed cremation?

    4. What was the date and time of death of the person who has died?

    Part 6 Statement of truth

    …. I am aware that the facts given in this application are true. I am aware that it is an offence to wilfully make a false statement with a view to obtaining the cremation of any human remains.

    [A printed name, with a signature and date are then required to complete the form.]

    Theft

    The law of theft is straightforward. If you take something that does not legally belong to you, it is theft.

    Dr Fleur Fisher stole all the contents of my daughters flat when she died and also stole her car, whilst in full knowledge of the existence of my family. She did not go through probate, she was not next of kin; she had no legal right whatsoever to do anything of the kind. It is simply theft.

    The Letters of Administration on our website demonstrate irrefutably that I am the legal executor of Carol’s estate and always have been.

    Servite Housing

    My daughter rented a flat from Riverside Housing. This was taken over by Servite Housing in 2006.

    The regional manager of Servite Housing is:

    Chris Williams
    Regional Housing Manager
    Servite Houses
    48 Wandsworth Common Northside
    London
    SW18 2SL

    Telephone: 0208 871 3280
    Fax: 0208 874 6270

    He will confirm that one of their housing officers – Lindsay Mortimer interviewed Dr Fisher, who was allowed to empty Carol’s flat and steal all of Carol’s possessions. This was allowed even though Dr Fisher did not go through Probate and showed no legal documentation that entitled her to Carol’s possessions.

    Diamond Insurance

    The policy number which this transaction refers to is DIAMO 8231221, and the original policy holder was Carole Myers.

    Contact details and address of Diamond Insurance are:

    ********* (Manager) or
    *********(direct line is 0870 549 2700).
    Diamond Insurance
    Customer Care
    Capital Tower
    Greyfriars Road
    Cardiff
    CF10 3WL

    Next of kin status

    Because a number of individuals and organisations with whom we have communicated with appear not to understand the law in relation to next of kin status, which Dr Fisher has used to pervert the course of justice, attempt to illegally cremate Carol and to steal Carol’s possessions, I have defined it in detail here. (Note: Carol had been registered as severely mentally impaired on the mental health register since June 29 1992). Next of kin status has no special legal validity. In the House of Commons on 13 June 2006, Harriet Harman, the Minister of State, Department for Constitutional Affairs, said that the law relating to next of kin was not going to be changed. “Being someone’s next of kin does not automatically give a person the right to do anything. Being next of kin does not, for example, give a person a right to bury someone, or to administer their estate.” (Source: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmhansrd/cm060613/text/60613w0886.htm#0606147000455) The extent to which one who has been named as next of kin has thus been defined by the Minister of State of the government department responsible for the administration of the law in the United Kingdom. The Royal Berkshire Hospital has also defined the nature of one who has been named next of kin, along with its limitations: “Q: Will my next of kin have any legal liabilities? A: No, your next of kin is a source of support and guidance and is not a legal appointment. Your next of kin will not be legally responsible for funeral costs and will have no legal rights to your medical notes or your personal possessions.” (Source: ‘Who is Your Next of Kin?’, page 3, Royal Berkshire Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, Patient Information Service, Dec 2003, Revised Sept 2005, Aug 2006). Accordingly, within the medical profession it is very well known that one who is named as next of kin does not have the legal right to inherit or administer the estate of the individual who has so designated the next of kin. In order for one who has been nominated as next of kin to have rights beyond those of support, guidance, and liaison with others to represent the will of the person who has designated their role, a number of important legal steps must be taken. Without those legal steps being taken, in all cases the wishes of the family over-ride those of one who has been named as next of kin. Being named next of kin does not make an individual a member of that person’s family, or the heir to that person’s estate. Probate Law, Powers of Attorney and Receivership have superior precedence.

    It is not possible to take legal steps without taking legal action. Both the Metropolitan Police and Battersea Coroner’s Office – the latter on behalf of Westminster Coroner’s Court – have said that Dr Fisher did not present any legal documents to them. We have checked with the Probate Registry, with the Court of Protection, and with the High Court – and with every legal body capable of granting legal rights to Dr Fisher – to find out if there was any possible way in which Dr Fisher could have acted with the law on her side. On every occasion we have discovered that no legal authority was granted to her at any time, whether when Carol was alive or when she was dead. In short, Dr Fisher acted illegally. It cannot be claimed that Dr Fisher was ‘sincere, but mistaken’, because Dr Fisher knew more than almost anyone in the country that next of kin status does not grant any legal rights. She knew that it was illegal for her to say that she was Carol’s legal representative to the Police, the Coroner, the Housing Association, the insurance company, and to all other organisations – including the GP surgery and the various hospitals in which Carol was treated. For Dr Fisher’s experience as a General Manager of the Community and Mental Health Unit in Macclesfield, Parkside Hospital, from 1985-1991, included all aspects of the legal treatment of the mentally ill, including implementing the legal guidance sent directly to her from the Court of Protection itself (which is the special court set up in 1985 to safeguard the interests of the mentally ill or mentally incapacitated); in overseeing the sectioning of the mentally ill she will have had extremely comprehensive knowledge of the legal processes involved in dealing with those lacking in capacity. It is impossible for Dr Fisher to be ignorant of the fact that she had no legal rights to represent carol, to cremate her body, or to take her possessions. That is not a personal opinion; it is a fact. She could not have been a General Manager of the Community and Mental Health Unit in Macclesfield without knowing the law relating to next of kin inside out. But Dr Fisher’s feigned ignorance of the most basic issues relating to medical treatment is still further undermined by the career she has led:

    “Dr Fleur Fisher

    Independent Consultant on Ethics and Health Care Practice Dr Fleur Fisher’s experience includes 30 years in clinical medicine and 11 years in senior management. 5 years in general practice followed by a career developing community family planning services led to her appointment as one of the first wave of NHS general managers in 1985. For 6 years she led the Community and Mental Health unit in Macclesfield incorporating psychiatric, learning difficulties, all paediatric, rehabilitation and community services. In 1991 she was appointed Head of Ethics, Science and Information at the BMA and was their media spokesperson on these subjects. She led the BMA’s campaign on Confidentiality of Identifiable Health Data and led a successful joint bid for the National Centre for Clinical Audit (NCCA) with the Royal College of Nursing and 12 other professional organisations, becoming the first chairman of the NCCA’s Management Board.”

    Source: ‘Building IT in Scotland’, Scottish Clinical Information Management in Practice, 6-7 November 2007, Conference Programme, NHS Scotland, 2007

    As a specialist in “healthcare ethics”, in doctor-patient boundaries, and in data protection, Dr Fisher will have had an almost unrivalled knowledge of the legal jurisdiction of medical practitioners, because that has been one of her key areas of expertise for many, many years. Her pretence of having been carol’s psychiatrist (and she has never qualified as a psychiatrist according to her entry in the General Medical Register under GMC reference number 1582097) to the Police and to the Coroner, still would not give her any legal rights whatsoever. How Dr Fisher could take control of Carol’s life, act as her executor, arrange her cremation, and then dispose of all of her possessions, without the slightest legal authority is absolutely astonishing. It is the most outrageous breach of medical ethics it is possible to imagine. But it is not just a breach of ethics, it is completely and utterly illegal.

    Conclusion

    It is the settled opinion of my family that any doctor who attempts to illegally cremate a patient, takes their possessions after they have died, and does not inform the family about the death of their relative, should be prosecuted, struck off the Medical Register, and never allowed to practice again.
    We want and expect to be kept fully informed of all developments and medical hearings in relation to this case.

    My family are speaking with the British False Memory Society and we are meeting with our Member of Parliament to expose this scandal.

    I await your reply.

    Yours Sincerely

    Joseph Felstead.

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  77. Lizi says:

    Is is possible for you to set up an ePetition on the Governments website which we could put our names to? This is so horrifically wrong I actually feel like hunting the stupid, twisted Sinason and Fisher down and giving them a taste of their perceived satanic abuse! Please God may no-one in my family or circle of friends ever get treated like this! What is so wrong with this country that we let nasty individuals like this get away with (technically!) murder and innocent people are hounded to hell??

  78. Liza from Canada says:

    One wonders how many other innocent people ended up in this so called ‘doctor’s’ clutches and ended up in institutions. What kind of police ignore what is smacking them in the face as far as evidence goes? She could be anyones daughter and the knowledge that those so called ‘doctors’ are treating and profiting on such patients makes my blood boil. How horrible for her family. I hope that so called doctor will be punished as she broke many laws. How in the world would anyone want to make her as head of the ethics commitee blows my mind. She knows absolutely nothing about ethics.

  79. Brian Walker says:

    An astonishing and disgraceful story. Dr Fleur Fisher may have entered into this situation with good intentions, but the net result of her involvement is utterly scandalous.

    The fact that no regulatory body is prepared to conduct a thorough investigation is shocking.

  80. Kathy says:

    I am so sorry for all you have gone through. And so sorry for Carole too, this is so sad. I know first hand, the deception and damge of that kind of therapy. I was very fortunate that I got out before my life was totally ruined by it.

  81. Nick Wood says:

    Just read your shocking story in the Observer, I wish you the very best in getting
    the truth and justice that you rightly deserve!

  82. Lauren Paton says:

    such a sad story may justice be served for Carole and your family! r.i.p. Carole

  83. Steven from the US says:

    What a disturbing and sad story. I am so sorry for your loss of Carol and am utterly disgusted by Dr. Fleur-Fisher’s sinister behavior. The fact that there is so much evidence against her and that she goes unpunished and is allowed to still practice makes my blood boil. In my opinion, she is a greedy and evil person who preys upon the weak… trust that there is a special place in hell for people who take advantage of others in this manner.
    It may not be of much comfort to you now, but people like Dr Fisher always get “theirs” in the end. Trust me.
    My best to your family.
    Steven

  84. Isla says:

    I know this may not seem very relevant to Carol’s situation and to yourselves, but I wonder how many cases where allegations of ritual abuse have been made, began or had significant input from Vera Diamond. I have been wondering about this aspect, and now see that Vera Diamond’s name is mentioned here.

    I do not say it would apply to everyone seen by her, or across the board in any way. It could be that others can shed light on their own situation, or on how they feel with hindsight. Alternatively, people may know of someone seen by Vera Diamond and hold some views that could be relevant.

    It is important to ensure that such mistakes do not happen in future, through lack of understanding more about how they may have arisen in the past.

  85. Maxine Berry says:

    I have added your site to the home page of my website.

  86. Irene Felstead says:

    I came across your story today and was saddened and appalled that this sort of thing could be allowed to go unpunished in this day and age.I wish you all the very best and I hope there will be a breakthrough for you soon

  87. shaun says:

    Sorry to hear all the trouble you have had with this, I think that it is disgraceful that you can’t get justice for Carol and are still trying to get answers. I hope you find them soon.

  88. I’m shocked by these revelations and the grave injustice. The story is just hard to believe. I hope I didn’t believe it but unfortunately, sometimes the truth is less believable than fiction. My deepest condolences for the family and friends of Carole Myers.

  89. Nick Wright says:

    You will certainly have thought of this, but an interesting question … or one of them, let’s say … is when precisely Carole died, as there appears to be some vagueness about this, and where Dr. Fisher happened to be at the time.

  90. Gillian Bliss says:

    I remember Carol from childhood, my sister was friends with her. Happy, bubbly girl. Shocking to read the details. I hope you get justice.

  91. Janice Taylor says:

    My sister sent me this via facebook, I am so shocked at what I have just read, I was a friend of Carol’s from our early school days, a lovely person. My thoughts are with the family and I hope someone out their can help the them get justice for Carol.

  92. Paul says:

    It is horrifying to think that the likes of Sinason are not merely permitted to continue working in medicine, but are actively sought out by the press to give sensationalist angles to already horrific crimes (in particular, she seems to have been behind the recent rash of reports about Jimmy Savile’s ‘Satanic Abuse’ http://www.weirdisland.co.uk/behaviour/mass-hysteria/jimmysavile.html).

    Carol’s story is particularly disturbing and I wish you all the best in securing justice for her memory.

    • anon says:

      I am also horrified to here Valerie Sinason continues to work in the medical field but have heard rumours that i think a patient is taking action and it is serious what has happened

  93. Lynn Dumbrell says:

    This is truly one of the most outrageous things I have ever heard, It absolutely beggars belief. I’m so sorry that Carole’s life was destroyed in such terrible circumstances and one can only hope that her family find justice for her and some modicum of peace for themselves.

    Lynn

  94. michael hutchinson says:

    These cover-ups are happening in significant numbers only the average person never gets to hear about them. Your family has the determination to keep fighting when most other people become disillusioned and give up on realising that the System is corrupt – no doubt you’re aware of other infamous cases where the Corrupt English Establishment has given ordinary people the runaround for years, Janet Alder for one, thwarting their desires for, and legitimate expectations of, Justice. Cases like yours and the others give us a glimpse into how the institutions of the Criminal English Establishment conspire to frustrate and alienate ordinary people, deliberately making them feel powerless. Why is it do you think the Criminal English Establishment is spying on us all. As Julian Assange says, most of those in the System are snivelling muktubs who’ll lick anyone’s arse to climb up the career ladder and if that means covering up for fellow mucktubs in the System, so be it

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